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manish choudhary
should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 3, 2017 at 6:32:05 pm

hey guys

i m going to buy new workstation with these specs...


Processor :-

Intel Xeon Processor W-2155
13.75M Cache, 3.30 GHz


Operating System :-
Windows® 10 Pro for Workstation (4 Cores Plus) Multi - English, French, Spanish

Chassis :-
Precision 5820 Tower 950W Chassis

Graphics Card :-
NVIDIA Quadro P5000, 16B (5820T)
Or
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080TI 11GB Founders Edition

Memory :-

64GB (4x16GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RDIMM ECC


Boot Drive
Dell Ultra-Speed Drive Quad PCIe SSD x16 card, 1 M.2 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 50 Solid State Drive


Hard Drive Controllers :-
MegaRAID SAS 9460-16i 12Gb/s PCIe SATA/SAS HW RAID controller (4GB cache)

Hard Drive :-
3.5" 4TB 7200rpm Nearline SAS Hard Drive x 4 =16 TB


RAID Configurations for SATA/SAS Hard Drives/Solid :-
RAID 10


PCIe I/O Cards:-

USB 3.1 G2 PCIe Card - 2 Type C Ports. 1DP in

it costs almost 7517$ to me

or should i buy new upcoming i mac pro with same config..??


my work was 4k music video editing
and lots of after effects work
and some cinema 4d work for 3d titles ad motion graphics...


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andy patterson
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 4, 2017 at 11:56:34 pm

It should work OK but a $1,900.00 gaming PC might be a better bang for the buck.

[manish choudhary] "or should i buy new upcoming i mac pro with same config..??"

Will the Mac Pro offer the Quadro card or the GTX series?


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manish choudhary
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 7:22:15 am

1. which gaming specs are best under $1900.00 ?

2. not mac pro its imac pro and its not offer nvidia anymore its offering amd's rx 7100 (8 GB) and 9100 (16 GB).


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andy patterson
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 8:50:43 am

Just shop around and buy what you can afford. The one has a GTX 1080 Ti : )

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230272

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIABFS6DM7488

http://www.microcenter.com/product/488859/CodexXE062US_Desktop_Computer


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manish choudhary
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 3:22:58 pm

Newegg links are broken...


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andy patterson
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 3:28:42 pm

They work for me using Firefox.


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greg janza
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 4:12:17 pm

newegg links work for me.

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Jeff Pulera
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 4:15:52 pm

Xeon processors are not necessarily better than i7 processors for editing, nor are more-expensive Quadro cards better-suited to Premiere than GTX cards.

Find a good PC rig with multi-core Core i7 processor, minimum 32GB RAM, and GTX 1080 graphics, along with fast storage, and you will have a great editing rig.

You will get more hardware for your money with PC versus Mac systems. Plus you can do more with expansion of PC, versus closed environment of the Mac that limits possible hardware upgrades.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers


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manish choudhary
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 6:02:47 pm

i have 1 ques. @jeff if i7 are better then why big companies like "Dell" "HP" "Lenovo" uses xeon processors ???


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andy patterson
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 9:28:42 pm

[manish choudhary] "i have 1 ques. @jeff if i7 are better then why big companies like "Dell" "HP" "Lenovo" uses xeon processors ???"

For the same reason Apple sells the Mac Mini with 16 GB of RAM and a dual core CPU for $900.00 bucks. Some people don't know any better. Don't get me wrong I like my Mac Mini I just know Apple over charged me. Having said that I bought the Mac Mini to get experience with the OS X platform.

The link below might be of some interest.

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/99384

For the record a Coffee Lake i7 8700k CPU and GTX 1070 should be enough for most people but a GTX 1080 Ti would not hurt. If you have the money getting an 8 core i7 CPU would not hurt. A 12 Core CPU might be over kill for the price.


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Alan Okey
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 11:55:40 pm

[manish choudhary] "i have 1 ques. @jeff if i7 are better then why big companies like "Dell" "HP" "Lenovo" uses xeon processors ???"

Xeon CPUs can be used in multi-socket systems, so a Xeon motherboard is not necessarily limited to a single CPU. For certain tasks that scale well, you can never have enough cores. A system with dual multicore CPUs will perform certain tasks faster than systems limited to a single multicore CPU, assuming that the system has adequate RAM and the application is able to fully take advantage of the extra cores.


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manish choudhary
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 6:04:04 pm

@jeff may you please share your rig's specifications.??


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andy patterson
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 5, 2017 at 10:18:29 pm
Last Edited By andy patterson on Dec 6, 2017 at 12:18:46 am

Your best bet is to get a Coffee Lake i7 8700K CPU. The K version is money well spent. As far a GPU a GTX 1060 will work just fine as the bare minimum but if you can afford a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 Ti it will serve you well. 16 GB of RAM will work OK but 32 GB would be even better. Some of the systems come with a 256 GB SSD and a 2TB HD. That is not bad but getting four 3TB HD striped in a RAID would be a wise investment f you edit Pro Res or Red One R3D files. If you cannot RAID it yourself a local PC repair shop can. I think most people would agree with my comments. Having said that my PC has some extra gadgets you could probably install yourself. The video link below might be worth watching.







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Jeff Pulera
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 6, 2017 at 5:28:55 pm

Great comments going on this thread! Xeon processors are often specified for computers used as SERVERS, or as mentioned those running dual processors, which you cannot do with an i7.

However, if you check with the Premiere "hardware experts" over at the Adobe forums, the way a Core i7 processes instructions works faster with Premiere than a similar (more expensive) Xeon would.

The combination of a Core i7 processor and GTX graphics card are just IDEAL for squeezing performance out of Premiere, versus more expensive Xeon and Quadro hardware.

Regarding RAID storage, I'd look at an external solution such as G-Tech or LaCie, using USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 connectivity. When you consider the cost and hassle of creating an internal RAID (is there space in the case for all those drives, enough power, cooling??) why not just get a nice self-contained desktop RAID unit, which also has the benefit of being portable as well? And has a nice warranty?

My system is a year old now. Includes:

1050w power, Asus X99-Deluxe II motherboard, Intel Core i7-6800k 3.8GHz (6-core), 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD, GTX 1070, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, G-Tech G-RAID and Glyph Black Box Pro storage.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers


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manish choudhary
Re: should buy new dell 5820 precession tower or wait for new i mac pro...
on Dec 6, 2017 at 5:51:08 pm

thanx @jeff and everyone i'll consult about this with out it dept.


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