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Christopher Smith
sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 5, 2010 at 12:05:31 am

I'm about to pull the trigger and buy the hxr-nx5u. I know it is fairly new and was wondering if anyone else has used this camera with Final Cut Pro 7. I've read that Final Cut does not natively edit AVCHD and that it needs to be converted to Apple ProRes for easiest editing. Is this completely true? If so, does it take longer to convert than it would to capture off tape in real time? I was hoping that going AVCHD would speed up my work flow. I just want to know if this will be a big pain it the butt and if their is another camera/format I should be buying that will better work with FCP7 that would still fall in the $4,000 price range and uses solid state media.

Thanks,
Chris

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Don Walker
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 5, 2010 at 12:53:55 am

Christopher,
While a cannot vouch for the Sony camera, I can tell you that working with the Panasonic form of AVCHD has been wonderful. The transcoding appears to happen better than two times real time, and the response of the clip in the Log and transfer window has gotten much better with every update. I love my HMC-150, and I am thinking of trading my HPX-170 (Same camera just with P2 cards) for another HMC-150, So I can work easily all in the same codec. I had 1 issue with corrupted data back in early July, and the camera rebuilt the file on the SD card.... no problem. I am kinda envious because I would like to have the Sony for the HD-SDI outs, but a $495 HDMI to SDi brick will take care of that problem for me.
So I would say go for it.
Don Walker


John 3:16


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Chris Borjis
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 5, 2010 at 12:59:14 am


I have the nxcam and final cut 6 on octo-core 2009 macpro.

it transcodes VERY quickly and I like working this way.

It's the same workflow as a canon vixia.

just log & transfer and it transcodes to pro res.




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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 5, 2010 at 2:32:39 am

Thanks! Do you transfer from the camera or from a card reader if so does any SD card reader work? and via what kind of cable, USB?

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Don Walker
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 5, 2010 at 5:06:05 am

I bought an $8 card reader from Walmart It sticks out the side of my Apple keyboard.
Don Walker

John 3:16


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Wayne Williams
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 16, 2010 at 2:36:39 am

I have one of these cameras coming in a few days.

i am interested to know if anyone knows of a system that can take the SDI HD output of this camera directly into a hard disk capture off camera. the advantage of this would be that you get 4:2:2 versus 4:2:0 chroma compression. Of course there is also the workflow question of how to get from that to fcp.

wayne


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Michael Peele
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 25, 2010 at 10:20:08 pm

Just a side note on transcoding the NX5U AVCHD to ProRes...

I have an Octo-core with 12GB. Transcoding was really fast - 3x realtime for clips under 2 mins or so.

Transcode time for longer clips increased incrementally with their length, with 8 min clips taking 20+ minutes to convert. Totally not acceptable.

The culprit? PCM audio. Stick to AC3. I would only use PCM if the content/client dictates it, the clip length will be short and transcode time is not critical.

AC3 audio is transcoding smoothly at 3X realtime, 20min clips transcoding in under 7min! Yipee!

Otherwise our two NX5U's are shooting beautifully. Lens is awesome - but we might get wide angle adapters for them. Working with a ~22mm lens has spoiled me and our tight shooting location would respond well to wider angle.



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Wayne Williams
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 28, 2010 at 6:37:14 am

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the tip. I did switch audio to AC3 based on your recommendation. Also helps that it is a silent film, :)

I do have a question since you are using the same camera I am. You may see the question as a new post, but it not here it is. Any guidance you have in this regard would be appreciated...

__________________________________________________________

Hello,

I am shooting AVCHD on a camera that only supports 1080p in 16:9. Director wants the film in 4:3.

Is there a way to set the geometry during log and transfer such that with the initial transcode to ProRes 422 I get 4:3 right off the bat?

If not, what is the best way to get there after the initial capture in 16:9. I noticed that i can select 4:3 under geometry for a ProRres 422 transcode in compressor. Am I doing a double transcode if I do that - ProRes 422 16:9 to ProRes 422 4:3? Loss of quality?

Should I just trim the frame in FCP to get to 4:3?

Finally, I tend to be anal about quality. Is there a discernible difference between using 422 versus 422 LT? I will only have about 80 minutes of footage. Even if yes, it may not be noticeable because of limits in my source quality? 4:2:0 8 bit in a new Sony NXCAM.

Thanks,

Wayne


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Drew Jensen
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 16, 2010 at 2:45:51 pm

Ki-Pro. It's what we're going to be using. Creates a great workflow for what we do.


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Mike Scannel
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Apr 11, 2011 at 3:24:10 pm

The AJA Ki Pro is portable and can accept the SDI output. It records the footage in Apple ProRes 4:2:2 format.


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 31, 2010 at 10:17:50 am

Hello there,

I am trying to get my footage from the sony HXR NX5U into Final Cut 6 but I am having no luck. My instructions book refers to a PC and tells me to install the File Manager but my Mac will not initiate the disc.

The camera is brand new and I am trying to upload some test footage. If anyone can make suggestions that would be very much appreciated. I will keep trying in the meantime.

Cheers,
Kari


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 31, 2010 at 7:44:35 pm

Hello,
You don't need that software. All you need to do is go into final cut and select... "file" + "log and transfer". I think you have to have final cut 6.5 or later. Anyway, once you do log and transfer it will pull the footage in and transcode it to Apple Pro Res. It's super easy but I did find that it takes about real-time to do the transcode to pro res.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 31, 2010 at 8:42:16 pm

Hi,

Thank you for your reply! The problem I am having is that my MacBook does not recognize the camera. I have taken it to a Mac store and he could not understand it. He said it is not recognizing the camera and thought it may have something to do with it not using Firewire. Someone else told me that USB should be fine. I am at a loss but I am still researching. I am not as computer savvy as the other people who post here but I was told that the camera is compatible with Final Cut 6. Could the version be the issue?

The person who sold it to me assured me I could use it with FInal Cut 6. I have also read posts from others who have not had a problem with using 6 and this particular camera so it appears the issue is mine. I am just not sure of the next step. I appreciate your help.

Thanks again,
Kari


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 1, 2010 at 2:52:16 pm

Hi, try using a card reader instead of the camera. I have not tried using the camera, just a $12 USB card reader and Final Cut sees it without a problem.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 1, 2010 at 4:07:00 pm

Hi again,

Yes, that is what someone else suggested. I find that a bit discouraging though because I just paid nearly a thousand dollars for the flash unit. There is no point keeping the camera if I cannot use it to it's capacity. I don't want to have to make more purchases because what I bought does not seem to work. No one can seem to help me. If I cannot figure this out I will return it to the place I bought it from. If they cannot help me, then I will return the camera. Thanks you for your help, I appreciate your time.

Cheers,
Kari


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 2, 2010 at 12:00:29 am

OK, I'm a little confused. You do have the Sony HXR-NX5U camera right? It costs about $4,000. Buying a $12 card reader to get the footage in your Final Cut machine is not a big deal or worth getting rid of the camera for.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 2, 2010 at 10:24:00 am

Hi Chris,

I understood that this camera shoots either with cards or the memory unit (which lasts up to 11 hours as you know) but maybe I have misunderstood something. However, if this is the case then I should be able to use what I have already purchased. It is not about the $12. It is about not being able to find answers on how to use the memory unit. My manual is geared for a PC.

I know the solution must be simple, but without knowing how to use the unit, what is the point of having it? Buying cards seems to be a band aid for the problem not really solving the problem. I am not trying to be difficult, I am just a frustrated customer who spent 7 thousand dollars on gear and cannot get any footage off the memory unit. Each place I take it for help, they tell me I should never have bought a SONY if I use a Mac. I don't believe this to be true because I have seen other posts where others are using it just fine but for some reason this isn't working for me. In the end, the suggestion is to get cards and not use the memory unit. The memory unit should work, I am juts trying to find out what is wrong.

I appreciate your time very much, I am just disappointed.

Kari


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 2, 2010 at 10:34:02 am

Sorry about that Kari. I didn't realize you were using the add on unit. I don't know anything about using that unit since I did not purchase it. Try contacting Sony tech support directly. That is what I would do. There has got to be a simple solution. If not, then yes, I would return it and use the SD cards. I like them way better than using an attached drive which I have tried in the past with another camera. Hope it works out for you.

-Chris

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 2, 2010 at 12:01:50 pm

Hi Chris,

Woohoo - it's working! I can't tell you what a happy lady I am :)

Thank you for your patience as I fumble my way through this learning curve.

Cheers,
Kari


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 2, 2010 at 1:00:17 pm

Awesome! Great to hear. I totally understand trying to figure out the new tech as I just went through the same thing after working strictly in DV for 10+ years. Hope you love the camera as much as I do. Take care.

-Chris

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Yari Rodas
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Oct 27, 2010 at 5:49:37 pm

Hey, I am having the same problem. I have Final Cut Pro v. 6.0.6, it has recognized the card reader in the past, but yesterday I tried using the camera unit, and it didn't work. So I tried using the card reader again, right after, and still I had no luck! How did you fix the problem? Or did it just out of a sudden started working?


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Oct 27, 2010 at 6:29:14 pm

Hey there!

Remove you flash unit from the camera and plug it right into you Mac.

Open FInal Cut and press Log Transfer.

All you footage should come up and voila - juts drag and drop.

It should transfer into your Final Cut.

Hope this helps - mine is working like a dream :)

Kari


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Dennis Dean
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Nov 14, 2010 at 4:10:21 am

Kari - I have been reading this post while researching the Sony hxr-nx5u nxcam.

Are you using this camera with FCP 6.06 ? How's it going?

DD

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
-It's about results-
http://www.deangroup.com


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Kari Mitchell
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Nov 15, 2010 at 1:20:48 pm

Hi there,

It was working great until the files became larger. Once the interviews for the documentaries were over 18 minutes each, they crashed. The computer kept giving me the message that "the device was removed improperly."

I was on the phone with SONY who said it was the version of FInal Cut I was using which is 6.0.6. I have ordered 7.0.3. Apparently the glitches are fixed in that version. I can watch the clips play but not get them, off - so close and yet so far! Fingers crossed that the new software is the answer.

Kari


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Dennis Dean
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Nov 15, 2010 at 1:59:45 pm

Are you getting M2T clips out of the memory card? Or is your memory recorder capable of something else? I'm involved in a project with a Sony HVR-MRC1 Memory REcording Unit and everything came out M2T - which I'm converting with ClipWrap. I'm thinking if I get the camera I need the right Memory Recorder - or maybe an Aja unit that will take me directly to something I don't need to transcode.

Dennis Dean
The Dean Group
-It's about results-
http://www.deangroup.com


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kara herold
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Dec 31, 2011 at 11:33:53 pm

THIS IS MY PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. DID THE UPGRADE HELP?
THANKS



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Caeser Pink
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Dec 29, 2013 at 8:15:30 pm

I had this same problem but the answer is simple. You remove the flash drive card for the camera, then plug the USB cord from the computer directly into the flash drive.


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kara herold
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Dec 31, 2011 at 11:27:14 pm

have you had any problems with LONG CLIPS?



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James Cho
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 23, 2012 at 11:13:21 pm

Hi Chris,

What are the steps you took to transfer the footage from the NXCAM/memory-stick-pro to your FCP version 6? Did you need to buy a memory stick pro card reader?


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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Mar 23, 2012 at 11:22:33 pm

I use SD cards instead of the Sony cards. But yes. I use a card readerand do a log and transfer.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Gary St. Martin
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 14, 2010 at 1:09:52 am

I have the sony nx5u and having problems importing files (log and transfer) it brings in the HD files, but when I shoot in SD it does not see the files. if anyone has a solution let me know


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stuart cloete
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 21, 2010 at 9:50:14 am

i have the same issue, please help us internets.


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Martin Curtis
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Aug 4, 2010 at 12:04:12 pm

IIRC, the NX5U shoots SD as MPEG2 of a type FCP doesn't want to know about. My suggestion would be to try MPEG Streamclip to transcode.


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Alan Carvalho
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jan 26, 2011 at 12:28:52 pm

I wondered if anyone has also considered the prosumer version of the HXR-NX5U? it's the Sony HDR-AX2000; I happened upon it by accident at my local video store, and was impressed with the features AND the price being $3500 retail instead of the $4800 retail for the pro version nx5u.
Seems like the specs are identical, outside of NO SDI output nor option for solid state hard drive attachment.
Would be interested in having feedback posted if anyone is doing a comparison.
I've got a Sony PMW-EX1R and was looking for either of these models and a B camera for production.


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john lenihan
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jan 26, 2011 at 6:22:34 pm

I find the 128 gig memory device aka solid state hard drive, extremely useful and would not miss it.

John Lenihan

John Lenihan

LeniCam Video Productions
http://www.lenicam.com


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Feb 25, 2011 at 11:15:44 pm

It may be too late now, but in response to Gary St Martin's post above there is an update for FCP 7 that fixes that issue. I'm going off memory here, but I'm pretty sure that was the fix.

Eric



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Carl Marxer
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 27, 2011 at 2:04:41 pm

I have had much trouble working with the memory unit from this camera, the HXR-FMU128. The camera is in Atlanta, and I am in NYC. The client sends me the memory unit to edit. I must 1st say, that we are editing 2 hour stage shows (5 of them), so apparently from reading this thread, that makes a big difference. Copying the footage via USB to the internal takes forever (as in days). Log and Transfer does not work for FCP v7 with the memory unit. It is not recognized by my FCP log and transfer. I tried iMovie, and the footage was very choppy with lots of dropped frames. Premiere CS 4 did not work, either. I was finally able to transcode the footage using Toast 11. It was taking 18 hours per 2 hour program, and the footage looked soft when transcoded to Pro Res 422.
I was thinking that part of the problem was that the MPEG 4 HD footage was too compliant to Blu-Ray specs. I have edited the AVC footage from Panasonic cameras with FCP with no problems. The Sony footage is different, even though it is AVC. I have a Sony Blu Ray player, that has a USB connection. I tried connecting the memory unit to the Blu Ray player, and plugged the memory unit into the Blu Ray player and it works really well. I was able to use the remote to navigate through the footage.
So I hooked the HDMI out to my Black Magic intensity card, and was able to digitize the footage into FCP. Really weird to use the Blu Ray player to digitize the footage (Don't tell Sony or they will probably do something to make it not work anymore.)
I believe the problems are rooted in Sony's desire to control copy right on its Sony Pictures films. If you are doing long form productions, well then you must be bootlegging films, right? So they intentionally make it so it won't work very well. It is an extreme conflict of interest for Sony to sell equipment AND be in the production business.


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 1:42:50 pm

Carl wrote: Copying the footage via USB to the internal takes forever (as in days).

I've never had that problem.... until now. My workflow is to dump the cards onto an external drive and then Log & Transfer into FCP. So far this has worked with no problems and the time is a little less than real time (a 1 hour video may take approx 45minutes to L&T).

However, I am currently log and transferring a stage performance that is one continuous clip 1:25 in length (one hour, 25 mintues). It is currently going on the 10th hour and is about 80% complete. I don't know whether to stop it and start again or let it finish and see if it transferred ok or not.

Why would it be taking this long, particularly when it has not taken this long in the past?

Ok, one note I should mention is that this is the also the first time I'm L&Ting on my new iMac vs my MacPro - but this new iMac should be every bit as fast and powerful if not more than the MacPro. If you want to know the specs I'll check and post.

Thank you,
Eric



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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 2:33:43 pm

Eric, I would try restarting it. I just L&T a stage performance on my Macbook Pro and it was less than real time for the transcode to ProRes. I've also done some L&T on an older iMac with no problems but that was a shorter set of clips. If your external drive is USB 2.0, that could be the problem. I usually only L&T to the internal drive then use the external as a backup copy later overnight.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 3:28:15 pm

Thanks for the advice Christopher... but it doesn't matter now! After 12 hours it reached the end, then crashed FCP! :)

I can see the file in the capture scratch (130gigs), but it is unreadable both by QT and FCP.

I'll just try again and see what happens.

FYI, external drive is FW800. Original files from card are stored here and I'm attempting to L&T onto iMac internal drive.

Eric



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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 3:31:06 pm

OK, I see now. I've never done off of an image just directly from the card ready. Maybe your image is bad. Have you already erased the SD card?

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 5:17:31 pm

Yes, the card was erased after I confirmed it was on the hard drive. I thought that was the point of dumping it onto a drive first! :)

Uh oh. What do you mean the "image is bad"?

Eric



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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 5:32:06 pm

That's just a guess on my part that the image may be bad. Typically what I do is log and transfer directly from the card into my FCP project on my internal raid drive and then I'll image the card on an external drive as a backup. I also hold onto the card for a few days before erasing it but I have 6 cards so that isn't a big deal for me to do that. I typically like to have the footage in two different locations just to be safe before formatting the card. Your method is fine but I would always double check your backed up files before erasing the sd card.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35:15 pm

Perhaps "lesson learned" the hard way. Maybe I do need to L&T the footage before reformatting the card and not just dump it onto a drive. The problem for me right now with that is that I'm at about an 8 month waiting period for editing the projects. In other words, if I shoot a video today it might be 8 months before I edit it. I'll just have to keep OWC in business and keep buying more drives!

Eric



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Christopher Smith
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 11:39:35 pm

It's great to hear you are that busy Eric. Especially in an oversaturated underpaying video market.

Christopher Smith
Senior Broadcast Specialist
Warrington College of Business Administration
University of Florida


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 30, 2011 at 2:58:15 am

ya, that's what I keep telling myself....



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Carl Marxer
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 6:32:24 pm

Don't stop it. It takes that long to transfer. I think it is just Sony trying to keep people from copying their feature movies.
Also, remember that my problems were because I was using the SSD hard drive.
But if you hook up the drive and edit with Premiere CS 5.5, everything works wonderfully. I edit straight from the drive, and only render out the final edit (no copying the footage). I make BluRay discs with the link to Encore DVD. The drive works just fine with that work flow. and my 2 hour show renders to BluRay in about 4.5 hours. Really weird, but I am happy it does not take days. This workflow will not work with CS4.


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jun 29, 2011 at 10:32:35 pm

Thanks for your feedback Carl, but I have to say "but" to two things. First, it has never taken this long before, and second, it did crash FCP after 12 hours and then made the file unreadable. I have more footage (not quite as long) still to attempt to L&T from that same show/card so that might help shed light on things. The good news is that the info is there on the original file (ie, the file on the harddrive dumped from the card). The file is 30+ gigs. So hopefully it's not corrupt and I can salvage it. I'll report back, I just haven't had a chance to deal with it yet.

Eric



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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 4, 2011 at 11:32:38 am

FYI for anyone following this thread...

Good and bad - I'm 99% sure that the problem I had with the files taking many hours to L&T was due to a bad hard drive. I won't go into details here, but the drive had issues and I was eventually able to transfer all the footage onto a new drive (as I said, I'll help keep OWC in business!!)

That's the good, but the bad is that when I tried to L&T the files from the new drive it also waited until the end and then crashed FCP - the only difference is that it didn't take 12 hours.

I'm going to try to use DV Streamclip and see if that resolves the issue. I know many people speak highly of the program but I haven't used it yet. I'll report back.

Eric



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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 4, 2011 at 12:13:02 pm

Alright, what am I missing here... Can anyone lend a hand regarding MPEG Streamclip?

I've downloaded MPEG Streamclip onto my MacPro OS 10.6.8. In reading the info for MPEG Streamclip nowhere does is say it is compatible with AVCHD files, and sure enough when I try to import one of my clips (from NX5U) I get an error message saying "unrecognized file type". I thought that was the point of using this program to convert files from this camera?

Am I missing something or doing something wrong?

Thank you for your help, and happy Independence Day if you're in the USA!
Eric



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Tony Micheletto
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 5, 2011 at 7:14:26 pm

My company just recently purchased a Sony HXR-NX70U camera. We are also using FCP 6.05 for editing. I took some test footage and am not having success loading into FCP. I attempted to use the log & transfer, but all the files are grayed out. All the current footage is in SD, as our clients are not ready to commit to HD, but we want to be ready when this happens. Any suggestions on workflow, so I don't have to log & capture the old fashion way.

Tony


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 5, 2011 at 7:36:37 pm

Tony, I'm hoping somebody else will chime in here soon with more details, but if I remember correctly you do not use the Log & Transfer window with SD footage - only HD.

So that should give you some hope! With that said, I can't remember the exact workflow for SD footage, but I think you can just import the mpeg files as you would any other files (Command I).

A word of caution for the future, it is my experience both hands on and from online research as well as this CreativeCow forum that Final Cut Pro does not like SD footage from digital SD cameras (cards). I know I had some big issues when I first started using the NX5U in SD mode with FCP 7. So much so that I shoot everything in HD now, even if the final product is regular SD DVD. Just a word of advice.

Try importing the clips the regular way first and check back to see if anybody else gave better directions.

Eric



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Tony Micheletto
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 5, 2011 at 7:43:14 pm

Thanks Eric, I will try some test footage in the HD mode. However, earlier I imported the files, which were already in mpeg format on the card, and ran into the following. First, I needed to render the files after placing in the timeline, no big deal. I noticed, the file contained only video, no audio. Huge problem! This process is what led me to all this online research.

Thanks again,
Tony


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 6, 2011 at 2:07:28 pm

Hmmm. Not sure I can help much more unfortunately. I'm pretty sure my SD files did not need rendered, and they certainly had audio!

Can anybody else assist?

Eric



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Martin Curtis
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 6, 2011 at 10:26:47 am

[Eric Pensenstadler] "A word of caution for the future, it is my experience both hands on and from online research as well as this CreativeCow forum that Final Cut Pro does not like SD footage from digital SD cameras (cards). "

From the PDF Sony NXCAM Product Workflows in Apple Final Cut Pro7(p.5) :

SD (MPEG2) Currently not supported in Final Cut Pro or QuickTime®


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Jul 6, 2011 at 1:57:42 pm

Martin, and those following, I've seen those exact words too, but I shot a few events in SD when I first got my NX5Us and I can totally work with the footage in FCP, but admittedly there are some issues.

Take that for what it's worth, maybe nothing more than not all hope is lost, but definitely just go HD from now on if possible.

Eric



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Albert Salvato
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21:52 am

Wondering if anyone else has found a solution to this problem yet, of having long takes taking forever to tansfer from a nxcam 128GB flash memory unit. I have a 51minute clip that is taking more than 7 hours to transfer.

My theory is, that this is a highly compressed file that is unraveling itself during transfer and therefore creating a huge video file. If I let run over night I end up with a workable but very large in file size video.

I have tried Sorenson Squeeze and this does work faster but audio and video becomes out of sync fix it and then trying to render. That again your waiting for EVER makes me want to go back to tape almost.

Focus Firestore memory unit would save in a ready to go .mov files and would break the clip at every 2GBs this worked swell.
Is there a way to program the nxcam flash unit to do seamless breaks?

What is the best solution for recording long sessions?


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Eric Pensenstadler
Re: sony hxr-nx5u nxcam and Final Cut
on Apr 6, 2012 at 2:59:12 am

I use the nx5u and FCP7. I have not experienced that long of transfer times and I regularly shoot 50+ minute clips.

Are you log & transferring dirrectly from the flash memory unit or are you transferring ALL the files from the FMU onto a harddrive, and then from there (the harddrive) L&Ting into FCP? I suggest the latter.

Also, make sure you're converting to ProRes 422 and not ProRes 422 HQ.

I hope this helps, but if not then post back more specific info.

Eric


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