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Bob Zelin
new Mac Pro
on Jun 10, 2013 at 10:54:43 pm

I guess that Sonnet, Magma, Areca, ATTO, Maxx, G-Tech, Lacie, Cal Digit, etc. are going to have to get BUSY in dealing with Thunderbolt 2.

I have posted on the SAN forum (not knowing where to post) but it "appears" that the Tbolt 2 ports are independent busses, so it may not slow down when other devices are plugged into the other Tbolt ports. But perhaps I am wrong.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
maxavid@cfl.rr.com


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Rainer Wirth
Re: new Mac Pro
on Jun 11, 2013 at 4:11:33 pm

yes I think, with the new thunderbolt our world changes.
instead of PCIx we will deal with thunderbolt raids and arrays.
The new mac pro will give us up to 3x4K display ports - interesting.
In case of speed we will see, when its there.

cheers

Rainer

factstory
Rainer Wirth
phone_0049-177-2156086
Mac pro 8core
Adobe,FCP,Avid
several raid systems


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Paul King
Re: new Mac Pro
on Jun 12, 2013 at 1:07:19 am

Regardless of TB2, the expansion will be limited to 40 lanes of PCIe. Because there are 40 lanes internally, there are only 40 left for TB2 expansion.

And those 40 lanes will be CPU dependent. Install one CPU and you only get 40 lanes, you need both to get all 80, the controller is on the CPU.

Really who cares, just get a Supermicro and run Windows. What apps are available to Apple that you cant get on PC? FCPX - who cares.

Would anyone have waited for AMD to release architecture for 3 years and not bought an Intel?

I really wonder what Apple devotees owe Apple, it's almost like Apple hold their mortgages or something.



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Rainer Wirth
Re: new Mac Pro
on Jun 12, 2013 at 12:34:32 pm

I'm Apple user from the first hour,
what are the alternatives to a 12core mac?
Up to now I didn't think about it, but perhaps I consider an alternative workstation.
FCP is dead, we switch to avid. So the switch can also mean a new PC based workstation.

Please join in.

cheers

Rainer

factstory
Rainer Wirth
phone_0049-177-2156086
Mac pro 8core
Adobe,FCP,Avid
several raid systems


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Paul King
Re: new Mac Pro
on Jun 12, 2013 at 1:05:10 pm

Hi Rainer

If you're running Avid then you can build a clone based on a Supermicro board. We've been doing them for a while now due to poor support for HP in our region.

The most recent system is a 16 core PC with 64GB of RAM.
The case we use can run 16way RAID plus boot and burner.

I think you get more power out of a PC Avid than a Mac.
Best thing now with Avid is the ability to use third party hardware.



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Rainer Wirth
Re: new Mac Pro
on Jun 12, 2013 at 1:21:19 pm

Hi Paul,

thanks for the input. At the moment we run AVID on a 8core mac with Aja Kona LHi. It works well. Fot the future we consider a PC based solution.

cheers

Rainer

factstory
Rainer Wirth
phone_0049-177-2156086
Mac pro 8core
Adobe,FCP,Avid
several raid systems


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Simon Ashby
Re: new Mac Pro
on Aug 2, 2013 at 1:16:51 am

"What apps are available to Apple that you cant get on PC? FCPX - who cares."

Smoke
Davinci Resolve ProRes compatibility (ALEXA)

I would love (ok, so maybe love is too strong a word), to be able to run an ultra fast, rackmount, windows box, but unfortunately, while Windows is fine for editing, we need to be able to deal with ProRes files, and we also really fairly heavily on Smoke too.

Simon "Smash" Ashy
Post Production Supervisor
C3 Media
Sydney, Australia


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