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Jaime Aguirre
Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 17, 2013 at 10:58:08 pm

I'm looking at a Proavio Editbox 8ms and a HighPoint RocketRAID 4322 with 2 x Mimi-SAS Cables for $450. No drives included. Would this be a good deal? How does it sound?

It looks like it is but I'm not 100% sure since there's not much info out there on these used.

thanks

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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 2:31:10 am

ProAvio is great; RocketRAID - not so much. Areca 1200 series RAID controllers - a much better option.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 4:39:17 am

Thank you! Well I could always resell the RocketRaid on ebay and buy an areca. Do you think the price is good for the bundle? thx!

Am I correct in assuming that this setup will be capable of 2k uncompressed playback?

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Todd Perchert
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 3:35:48 pm

The Proavio should be able to, but I'm with Alex, not the RocketRaid card. With the Areca mentioned you should be able to do a single stream uncompressed 2k. With the Areca card, you should be able to get 700-800 MB/s, so just look at your data rate for your footage (Guessing ~300 MB/s).
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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 3:38:20 pm

Fantastic! What specific card are we talking about here? I see a 1200 but there's no mini sas. Just sata.

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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 6:47:36 pm

I was thinking ARC-1222s but it's discontinued and I can't think of any other decent RAID card that's in the same price range. ARC-1882x is awesome but it's $800. So maybe try RocketRAID and see if it works for you.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 18, 2013 at 6:50:16 pm

[Alex Gerulaitis] "I was thinking ARC-1222s "

Whoops - "x", not "s": ARC-1222x.


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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 19, 2013 at 10:03:03 pm

Really Appreciate it. I'm going to purchase the Proavio with the raid card. I'll try out, if the performance and stability is bad, I'll go ahead and sell the card on ebay and purchase the areca.

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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 20, 2013 at 9:09:39 pm

Ok I got it and am looking for a the ARC-1222x. I found a 1223-8x. Any experiences on this card?

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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 20, 2013 at 9:11:42 pm

Sorry for all the posts... Found this link. http://www.arecaus.com/areca_tests_1223_8x_mac_8_st33000650ns.htm great speeds!

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John Davidson
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 20, 2013 at 10:09:19 pm

Just as a suggestion, I have the 8MS and an Areca 1882x as well as a ATTO R680. This is what I would do were I you.

Box:
Get a proavio 6G box, not the 8ms, but the EB800ms. According to the specs this supports 6G drive speed. You want all 6G components, you'll have a faster system, and you'll be happier for longer.
Proavio
http://proavio.com/index.php/products/desktop/eb800ms
Talk to Jon Shilling at ProAvio.

Card:
The Areca 1882x card is good, but the ATTO R680 is better for video. I got a bad ATTO card and went with the Areca originally, but also ended up getting another ATTO which worked fine. I now have both. The ATTO is the better performer.

Drives: Everybody recommends Ultrastars but we were ok with Deskstars. Your mileage may vary.

You want 6G compatible elements for everything. You get faster speeds that way.

Good luck! The ProAvio guys will give you the proper ATTO or Areca settings needed for their box to work the best.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.


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John Davidson
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 20, 2013 at 10:12:50 pm

OH, I just realized it was used stuff you were looking at. For $450, it's not a steal but you're not being robbed either. I had basically that same setup for a year. It'll work ok. Don't expect the moon and be cautious with the highpoint. It's a decent starter RAID system.

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.


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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 21, 2013 at 4:48:08 am

Thanks John! Well I'm getting rid of the rocketraid. I'm going with areca. Seems everyone who has one is extremely happy with their product and support.

Do you have any knowledge on the Areca ARC-1223x? Found one for a good price.

I'm comparing it to the ARC-1222x and the ARC-1223x seems a bit better.

http://www.arecaraid.com/product_info.php?products_id=88
http://www.arecaraid.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=139

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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 21, 2013 at 6:52:19 pm

[Jaime Aguirre] "I'm comparing it to the ARC-1222x and the ARC-1223x seems a bit better."

Can't find ARC-1223x in your links. Not even sure it exists. You need two external MiniSAS SFF-8088 ports to drive your enclosure. 1222x has them, 1223-8i doesn't. You can get adapters and brackets to convert internal SFF-8087 to external SFF-8087 - your call if it's worth it.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Jon Schilling
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 23, 2013 at 6:48:23 pm

& Jaime, Alex @ DV411 will sell you the enclosure John Davidson recommended, the EB800MS & we can provide that Areca card, 1223X with drives at a great price.

Jonathan Schilling
Vertical Sales Manager
Proavio Storage by Enhance Technology Inc.
12221 Florence Ave.
Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670
Dir: 562-777-3498
Main: 562-777-3488 X106
Fax: 562-777-3499
Email: jon@proavio.com





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Chris Alstrin
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 25, 2013 at 4:49:03 am

@ Jon.
Aside from the price can you tell me if there is a difference between these two Raid Controllers?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151107
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/857334-REG/PROAVIO_AC_1882X_AC_1882x_...

My other question to you. Is the 1882x a better (faster) Raid Controller than the 1223x?

Thanks for your help
Chris

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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 27, 2013 at 10:12:10 pm

Hey Guys. Now that everything is setup, I need drives.... Which drives do you guys recommend? John recommended Deskstars and Ultrastars. Anything else? Anyone ever use the WD reds? Any good?

Thanks in advance!

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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 27, 2013 at 11:44:12 pm

[Jaime Aguirre] "Which drives do you guys recommend? John recommended Deskstars and Ultrastars. Anything else? Anyone ever use the WD reds? Any good?"

WD Reds are good but not supported on more than five drives in a RAID set or chassis; WD RE drives is another option - less expensive than Ultrastars.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Feb 4, 2013 at 2:05:37 am

Hey Alex. Thanks so much for all your help. Is this the hard drive you're talking about http://www.amazon.com/RE4-Enterprise-Hard-Drive-WD1003FBYX/dp/B003SANWI6 ?

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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Feb 4, 2013 at 2:51:32 am

That'll work although it's previous gen - SATA II and not III.

WD4000FYYZ, WD3000FYYZ and WD2000FYYZ are their latest SATA models, 2-4TB capacities.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Alex Gerulaitis
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 27, 2013 at 11:41:36 pm

[Chris Alstrin] "Aside from the price can you tell me if there is a difference between these two Raid Controllers?"

One will be supported by ProAvio as their own (including cross-shipping), in addition to Areca's support. The other one - NewEgg and Areca support only.

[Chris Alstrin] "My other question to you. Is the 1882x a better (faster) Raid Controller than the 1223x?"

1882x is faster - you may or may not see the difference in performance depending on your storage configuration.

Alex Gerulaitis
Systems Engineer
DV411 - Los Angeles, CA


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Chris Alstrin
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 30, 2013 at 9:39:41 pm

Thanks Alex

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Jon Schilling
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Jan 30, 2013 at 9:43:54 pm

Hey Chris,

Thank you also. Alex was quicker on the draw than I was the other day, glad he handled your inquiry.

Jonathan Schilling
Vertical Sales Manager
Proavio Storage by Enhance Technology Inc.
12221 Florence Ave.
Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670
Dir: 562-777-3498
Main: 562-777-3488 X106
Fax: 562-777-3499
Email: jon@proavio.com





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Jaime Aguirre
Re: Considering buying a Raid. Good price?
on Feb 20, 2013 at 8:35:10 pm

Thought I should update this thread.

So I got the Proavio with the High Point 4322 card. As I was setting up the raid, the card burnt out on me... I contacted highpoint and they agreed to let me RMA the card with the receipt waved. Took about 2 weeks from first contact till I received the unit back. They replaced it. I'm glad they did that.

I ended up getting an ATTO card. I'm getting 500mb/s speeds. I'm happy. I'm going to ebay the 4322. I just don't trust the 4322.

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