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Dean Longfield
Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 19, 2012 at 6:32:42 pm

'm seeking a mic for my DSLR and am considering the Rode VideoMic Pro
and the Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun. Does anyone have an opinion which may work best for weddings ?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/744768-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_PRO_VideoMic.....

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/839897-REG/Rode_STEREO_VIDEOMIC_PRO_S.....

Thanks.


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Steve Crow
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 19, 2012 at 7:39:34 pm

Will these be the ONLY mics you are using? No lavaliers for instance?

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Dean Longfield
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 19, 2012 at 11:46:53 pm

I have a H4N as well and my thinking was to use one of the Rode Mics I asked about - mounted on the DSLR rig - going into the H4N, and also having a wireless mic, (lavalier on groom in church or mic near speaker at reception), going into the H4N's other input. Then outputting from the H4N via a Y cable with one going into the DSLR and the other to the headphones. This way I can at least monitor the audio somewhat, and have two recordings, (keeping the H4N levels on the slightly lower side).


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Steve Crow
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 12:04:10 am

OK, I have the older Video Mic Pro which is closer to the shotgun style you mentioned. I would say that it does an "allright" job of capturing audio but 90% of the time I am only using it plugged directly in to the DSLR so that I can improve on the camera's built-in mic...and even then the camera audio is only being used to sync with the audio coming in wirelessly from the lavalier into the H4N....so I'm not really depending on it all that much. What I have works for me but your situation sounds more challenging.

In your situation, I think you may want to actually use some of that camera audio at least for environmental sound, B-roll stuff so I think my best advice is to rent either one and see how you like it before you purchase. Put it this way, if it were me I'd be looking at all the audio reviews to make sure there wasn't something better out there, for instance Senheisser just announced a new small shotgun specifically for DSLRs. Now if you are filming within 5 feet of your subject either of the two mics you mentioned would probably be fine but in a wedding situation I don't think you can count on being so close to your subject all the time.

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Dean Longfield
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 1:17:07 am

Thanks for the response. Much appreciated. I know of the Sennheiser MKE400. That's defiantly also a mic to consider.

Do you use manual levels when recording in camera audio?
My tests have been done that way thus far, but I've read that some people use the auto feature in live situations. (I have a Canon 60D).
I have used the auto feature with the in camera mic during tests in quiet situations and it wasn't terrible, (and is a good to reference)

My thoughts of using the shotgun style mic (and lavalier in the church),
connected into the H4N and then outputting that signal into the DSLR,
was so I could adjust the audio levels during live recording, if need be, and then send a cleaner (not over modulated) signal to the DSLR.

I'll have to continue testing. Especially in a loud music situation like a wedding reception.


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Steve Crow
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 1:49:52 am

I use the Canon T2i so that was built before Canon started offering the more flexible in-camera audio recording options. I can however control the audio recording levels on devices plugged into the Zoom but that's a bit different than what you asked about.

Yeah your plan sounds pretty smart to me, I'm just not overly thrilled with the audio from mics mounted directly on cameras since they are typically so far from the audio source....still it's soooo much more convenient than dealing with the lavs and the the whole dual sound recording workflow....oh speaking of bug-a-boos - make sure you never let the Zoom H4N reach zero battery juice while recording....the audio that was recorded up to the point will technically still be on the SDHC card inside the Zoom but you won't be able to get at it, at least not easily. It will report a 0mb file size - I had this happen to me on like a 10 minute clip! :-(

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William Carr
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 24, 2012 at 1:29:19 am

Just got B&H newsletter with this new integrated shoe-mount DSLR-market mic from Sennheiser, link below.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/878340-REG/Sennheiser_MKE_600_Shotgun...


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Phil Balsdon
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 10:04:02 am

This video (from B & H) features both those mics. Gives recording comparisons from a number of mics suitable for on camera mounting.






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Dean Longfield
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 12:21:13 pm

Thanks for the responses. Good stuff. Just one thing I'm a little confused about. When the audio on a 60D is switched from Auto to Manual,
does that turn off the AGC? I've read that it does and that it does not on various tech boards on-line. Also, many suggest setting low manual audio levels on the 60D and using a high output mic, (and/or the +20 gain on mics with that feature). It would stand to reason that switching to manual would turn off the AGC, but the more I research the more I find that there is disagreement on that.... I'll have to test more and see if I hear fluctuations in the sound when on manual setting.


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Phil Balsdon
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 20, 2012 at 12:42:10 pm

AGC is the abbreviation for Auto Gain Control, so yes switching to Manual turns it off.

Using a high output mic and low gain settings in the camera is helpful so long as your recording levels are normal. Camera pre amps are fairly poor so lifting levels in the camera to compensate for low level input will lft background hiss.

Better still add a Juicelink or Beachtek unit. These have better pre amps and will give a higher input level to the camera meaning you can keep your camera's levels low (and thus lower levels of hiss).

Even better quality can be obtained if you record double system using a Zoom H4n or Tascam digital recorder and sync to the camera sound in post using PluralEyes or DualEyes (or manually with a clapper slate).

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Brent Dunn
Re: Rode VideoMic Pro vs Rode VideoMic Pro Shotgun
on Sep 21, 2012 at 5:23:56 pm

I think either choice will work

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