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david masterson
monitor questuin for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 11:25:36 am

wondering who makes the best valued HD monitor for 5d rig....looking at a Marshall 5 inch for about 1200.00 ay B& H

Any suggestions?


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Everest Mokaeff
Re: monitor questuin for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 12:17:37 pm

It depends on what you're looking for in your monitor. Since there is no way at present to get clean HDMI out 5D I see no purpose in buying a top-shelf pro video monitor. If you need to look pro for your clients Marshal name will ring some bells no doubts.

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david masterson
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 1:37:35 pm

agreed....@ 55 its my eyes that require mire " viewing room" Marshall is what i have used before but was thinking there might be new options


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Steve Crow
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 3:55:43 pm

Wait a minute guys there can be lots of reasons you might want an external monitor that have nothing to do with HDMI

1. To better postion the viewfinder so that it aligns more naturally with your eye while on a shoulder rig

2. For features like peaking and Zebra striping

3. So that others, like a focus puller, can see better what's going on image wise

And it occurs to me if the camera did provide a "clean" HDMI signal to the external monitor then you would not be able to see all that helpful info like shutter speed, ISO, aperture, etc -

Just my 2 cents!

Steve Crow
Crow Digital Media
http://www.CrowDigitalMedia.com


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Everest Mokaeff
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 6:26:24 pm

Steve,
nobody's here arguing that an external control monitor is helpful and should be handy. The question I raised was about the reason behind buying a pro level monitor such as Marshal while the signal you get from 5D's still gonna be compromised from the outset? Why pay $1200 for something that you can get much cheaper?
I thought about purchasing Marshal but opted for cheaper Liliput. I believe for 5D 1K priced Marshal is overkill.

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Steve Crow
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 6:29:57 pm

Yeah I guess I did misunderstand a bit on that one, sorry!

I once learned that the definition of value is price divided by or relative to performance/quality

I probably wouldn't buy a Marshall either - would love to HAVE one but just couldn't afford it

Steve Crow
Crow Digital Media
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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 12, 2012 at 8:32:56 pm

Just to confuse the issue, these guys in China receive great ratings, ship fast, and I've had no problems with the DSLR rig components I've purchased from them:

http://www.coollcd.com/

They have a pretty wide array of monitors, ranging from the downright cheap to pretty affordable, from 5 inch to honking 10 inch leviathans. The specs are all there, so it's pretty easy to compare the various models with the (much more) expensive Marshalls that you're considering. Good luck!

Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com


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david masterson
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 13, 2012 at 1:47:12 am

looking into the cool company...good pricing for sure

next question - any ideas on where to buy the best mark 2 5d body only? refurbished unit maybe? canon site had one for 1700.00 was cheapest I have found so far but were sold out

D


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Victor Nguyen
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 13, 2012 at 5:16:52 am

do you mind buying used?


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david masterson
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 13, 2012 at 11:12:13 am

might be interested


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Brent Dunn
Re: monitor question for DSLR rig
on May 24, 2012 at 6:40:35 pm

http://www.lcd4video has some inexpensive monitor options of all you need it for is focus.

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Jonathan Ziegler
Re: monitor questuin for DSLR rig
on May 13, 2012 at 8:49:02 pm

I picked up a really cheap 7" in-car DVD LCD for about $60 and an inexpensive HDMI to RCA converter for $30 for my t2i. My goal was just to position the camera for a job I had made. Since I knew the signal wasn't clean from the camera and I just needed positioning, it made perfect sense not to spend a lot. I shoot with one of a few "flat" cine settings most of the time and I plan to correct colors later in fcp so just getting positioning and framing is important. I can't control focus real well when using the jib either so there are loads of reasons not to spend a lot.

If you feel your use of a monitor is crucial to your workflow, then get what you can afford. The nice thing is that your $1200 monitor will be useful for a long time whereas my quick fix probably won't.

Jonathan Ziegler
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david masterson
Re: monitor questuin for DSLR rig
on May 13, 2012 at 9:29:30 pm

The main reason I want (what I consider to be "mid range" priced monitor @ 1200.00 ) a fairly good monitor is to better see the entire scene with, and yes, I will admit I probably will look at it for focus as even with my Zurcotta ( pardon spelling) for the 5D, with my eyes slowing going south, this is the next best thing I can think of....what else are my options? LOL

Just for FYI: I am Frankenstein-ing all this on a pro-aim unit I just bought. Right out of the box the handle broke but they said they would send another asap. Overall construction seems good, but have only used it " in the field" for a few hours. Over all a pretty good set up for under 400.00


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John Young
Re: monitor questuin for DSLR rig
on May 14, 2012 at 2:56:43 pm

If you are looking at your 5D MarkII and seeing that it doesn't give clean HDMI out and drops to 480p when recording, then let me ask these questions? How long do you plan to have your monitor? and... How long do you plan to have your camera?

I always try to look to the future when buying gear, not just the present. If I could afford it right now, I would get a monitor that has these qualities.
1) is HD -- a lot of the lower end monitors are 800x600.
2) has accurate level and color representation, and/or is able to be calibrated -- I don't like not being able to trust what I am seeing, and it seems silly to have to unplug the Lilliput monitor for lighting and setting levels and then only plug it for framing and when recording. For run and gun situations, where you have to set exposure and color levels on the fly, you have to be able to trust what your monitor is telling you.
3) HD pass-through of some kind -- especially with DSLRs where your on-camera live-view shuts off when you plug in an external monitor, you at that point are left with only one monitor for the client, DP, Director, focus-puller, and everyone else, and it tight shooting spaces that can be impossible. To future proof my monitor buy, I want to have the option to plug in another monitor.

All that being said, I am quite a ways away from being able to afford the monitor that has all these functions. The new SmallHD DP7 looks great, but I think will be priced around $2,500.

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