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Don Scrams
Music Copyright Question
on Jul 11, 2011 at 2:34:16 am

I was wondering if anyone had any info/links to official docs regarding the use of copyrighted music in online, non-commercial videos. I am wanting to use some music in some pieces I am going to edit and post online and wanted to know if/how I could go about this.

Something along the lines of this, http://www.vimeo.com/26078103 which uses copyrighted music but there are no music credits


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Richard Harrington
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 11, 2011 at 2:52:35 am

Unless you are a student, and you are using it in a class exercise.

People break rules all the time... Doesn't mean its right nor that you won't be sued for lots of money.

Copyright.gov


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Noah Kadner
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 11, 2011 at 5:20:41 am

People do it all the time. Not legal by any means and you risk getting sued. but simply it's so prevalent that some folks get away with it for a time. Not really worth it for anything though...

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André Engelhardt
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 11, 2011 at 12:04:51 pm

Simple answer is you're not allowed to do what you describe! If you want to use copyrighted music you have to license it. Much easier, faster and cheaper would be to use stock music from one of the many stock music companies out there. It will also make your work a bit more original as it's "not that song again".

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Don Scrams
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 11, 2011 at 4:08:11 pm

Thanks for the link Richard, I will definitley check that out.

Much appreciated.


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Noah Kadner
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 12, 2011 at 12:40:55 am

Heh- don't schools get sued for this too? I'm thinking I'm a student doesn't really make a difference either. You get caught- you are breaking the law.

Noah

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Stephen Smith
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 13, 2011 at 10:30:17 pm

I find copyrighted music distracting. I was sent a demo reel with some music from a Hollywood movie. I spent the time thinking about the movie and not the demo. They didn't get the job.

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Noah Kadner
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 12:26:29 am

Sometimes it makes a good reel great. Then again I know a lot of producers who watch reels with the sound off- talking mostly animation/colorist but there ya go.

Noah

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Stephen Smith
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 12:35:53 am

Noah, Depending on the music, (if it is U2 or some mega band) I personally focus on the fact that they most likely didn't purchase the music, those stole it. Do I want to hire that type of person that might steal other things?

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Noah Kadner
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 2:59:07 am

Heh- you're a tough hombre. No I don't think of the person as untrustworthy because they stole music. Now if the video concluded with first person footage of a bank robbery I'd be a little more alarmed.

Noah

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Stephen Smith
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 2:19:52 pm

One more thing from the tough hombre. :-)

I think people are cheating themselves if they feel that this copyrighted song is the only song that will work for their project. I would like to bring up an example where budget restraints created a better solution. Doug Liman did not have the budget he wanted for Mr. and Mrs. Smith. The neighborhood scene where Mr. Smith trips on the fence and accidentally almost shoots his wife is a great one and added a lot to the movie. It was originally supposed to be this big budget car chase scene that the studio would not pay for. Instead we ended up with this very simple scene that brought so much more to the movie. Limitations can help you find better solutions. Alright, the stiff is jumping off of his soap box.

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Joseph W. Bourke
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 9:41:39 pm

Try looking at it from the musician's perspective. So it's ok to take away the musician's livelyhood by pirating his music to make you look good. I'll bet if some of your footage showed up on someone else's demo reel you'd scream bloody murder. Just another view from someone who's both an animator/designer and a musician.

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Stephen Smith
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Jul 14, 2011 at 9:45:22 pm

Joseph,
Great point.

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Ronn Kilby
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Aug 23, 2011 at 4:04:07 pm

Once when I was an art director, I was interviewing a kid for a graphic artist position. He had a great portfolio. In fact it included a gorgeous print piece. Unfortunately, it was one I HAD DESIGNED 3 years previous. Turns out he worked at the printing company where I'd had it printed. He was a stripper, burning plates for the press. Apparently he saved the stuff he really liked and put it in his "design" portfolio. I played dumb and asked where he got the idea for the design. He totally BS'd me. I didn't say a word. But as you can imagine, he didn't get the job.


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Stephen Smith
Re: Music Copyright Question
on Aug 23, 2011 at 4:35:29 pm

That is just to funny.

When I worked at a local TV station they would bring you into an edit bay hand you a script and some tapes and say, "I'll be back in 30 minutes." They gave everyone the same script and tapes so you would get a real good idea as to what they can and can't do.

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