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Sascha Engel
Colorspace on Dell U2410
on Aug 6, 2013 at 5:36:34 am

I have a Colorspace question:
If I do not have a Broadcast Monitor at hand, but the material I am colour grading is for the web, not broadcast, am I better advised to use my sRGB more or my Adobe RBG mode on my Dell U2410 displays?
Thanx a lot.

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Laco Gaal
Re: Colorspace on Dell U2410
on Aug 6, 2013 at 11:34:34 am

Even if you create content for web, you should calibrate you display.
Use "Custom Color" option, then calibrate it with a i1Display Pro, or have it calibrated with someone.


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Sascha Engel
Re: Colorspace on Dell U2410
on Aug 6, 2013 at 11:37:15 am

I know, that is the way to go, just out of interest, i wanted to know, which setting is more adequate: sRGB or Adobe RGB, since they both have extremely different values on in terms of Saturation.

Thanx a lot.


Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Bill Ravens
Re: Colorspace on Dell U2410
on Aug 6, 2013 at 1:07:25 pm

RGBs is the least wrong of the two wrong ways. I'm afraid that won't help you, much. You can tune the 2410 for the right luminance values, but, I'm afraid it's incapable of reproducing the right colors for Rec709. That's not to say it can't reproduce Rec709, because it can. You can, with 3rd party software, set the right white point on the 2410. Unfortunately, the RGB values the 2410 displays exceed the RGB color values that Rec709 is limited to. Even trying to calibrate with a photographic sensor like Eye 1 or Spyder won't work for you. The weakness of ANY of these non professional desktop LCD's is that they don't allow tuning the RGB corner points in the color map. So, we live with the imperfections we get.

If it's any consolation to you, 99% of client monitors and playback devices are so poorly calibrated that even if you provided perfect color balanced footage, it would never display right.



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Sascha Engel
Re: Colorspace on Dell U2410
on Aug 6, 2013 at 7:37:01 pm

Thanx for the detailed Info!

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Clermond Ferrand
Be careful with this monitor.!
on Aug 7, 2013 at 7:28:58 pm

Be careful with this monitor.!

I had it two years ago and after some month I sold it again with a loss. Unfortunately I did not read this test before I bought it http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2010/test-dell-u2410-teil8.html

It's in German but I can absolutely confirm what they critizize: color custom mode has a sigificant difference to reference value and as you need color custom mode for individual calibration it fails with striking divergence in green. As it's not linear so you cannot correct it calibration.

Maybe the corrected this since two years, but I dare to doubt it.
U2711 is different in this point and therefore it should be better choice


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Sascha Engel
Re: Be careful with this monitor.!
on Aug 7, 2013 at 7:59:49 pm

I am German, so I could read the test. Thanx. Unfortunately, I have two of this screens already.
I have an option to change one of them to the 2413 - you know if that would be any better?
I heard though, the 2413 has ghosting issues. Is that true?


Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Clermond Ferrand
Re: Be careful with this monitor.!
on Aug 7, 2013 at 8:17:18 pm

sorry Sascha I have no idea about the 2413 but prad.de judges this
monitor as good - I think this reliable. I had the U2711 and I was quite
satfisfied with it. I know a professional colorist who uses the U2711 for
his toolset so it can't be totally wrong.

In the end I sold it too because I switched from a MacPro to the iMac
but for practical reason not for the quality . Hope this helps,
greetings from your homeland


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Juan Salvo
Re: Be careful with this monitor.!
on Aug 8, 2013 at 4:10:39 am

I'll be blunt. These are computer monitors. They are fine for driving computer display. As in displays on which you are not making critical evaluations of a video image. If you want to be a "colorist" and you want to grade videos, you MUST HAVE a video display onto which you will evaluate your videos. No computer monitor will ever be up to the task, as it's not what they were designed to do. Some can be made to function with a lot of other gear, and more importantly know-how... But there is no real short cut here. You want to be in business grading videos. Get a reference video display.

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http://JuanSalvo.com


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