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Joel Arvidsson
Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 12, 2012 at 6:39:27 am

Im ready to order a new workstation that will be dedicated for resolve and premiere. But I have some questions.

1.
In resolve recomandation dokument, there is a
Intel Xeon E5-2620 6C/12T
2.00 GHz, TLC: 15 MB, Turbo: Yes, 7.2 GT/s, TX/RX300 S7, RX350 S7

But Im looking at the
Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-1650
Socket-LGA2011, 6-Core, 3.2Ghz, 12MB, 130W, TRAY/without FAN

Wich one is the better for premiere and resolve?



2.
Do you need sli to run on premiere and resolve? Or is that more for gaming?
Im deciding between two ASUS motherboards and one have 4x gigbit lan conecctions and more dimm sockets.

Here is the mother boards
ASUS Z9PE-D16, 2xSocket-2011
E-ATX,C602-A,16xDDR3,4xPCIe(3.0)x16,3xIntel i350 GbLAN,1x Mgmt LAN, VGA, iKVM

ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS, 2xSocket-2011
SSI-EEB, C602, 8xDDR3, 7xG3-PCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, 2xIntel GbLAN, 2xFW, iKVM

3.
Is there any of the graphic card manufactures that make gtx 680 that make better/more quiet/stable cards?


4. Anybody know a workstation tower that fits good with dual water cooling?


Below is the configuration to be ordered soon. Just need to check here that im not ordering anything crazy.
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ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS, 2xSocket-2011
SSI-EEB, C602, 8xDDR3, 7xG3-PCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, 2xIntel GbLAN, 2xFW, iKVM

(two of those below)
Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-1650
Socket-LGA2011, 6-Core, 3.2Ghz, 12MB, 130W, TRAY/without FAN

(two of those below)
Kingston DDR3 1333MHz 16GB ECC KIT
2x8GB 1333MHz DDR3 ECC CL9 DIMM

Fractal Design Define XL Black Pearl
Fan:1x 140mm Front, 1x 180mm Top, 1x 140mm Bakside, noise reduced, m/e-ATX, USB3

Intel® SSD 520 Series 240GB 2.5"
SATA 6 Gb/s (SATA3.0), 550MB/520MB/s read/write, bulk (OEM)

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 680 4GB PhysX CUDA
PCI-Express 3.0, GDDR5, DVI-D+DVI-I, native-HDMI, DisplayPort,

Noctua NH-U12DX CPU Cooler
Socket 771, Intel Xeon 5xxx, 7xxx,1300 RPM, 92,3 m³/h, 19,8 dBA, 120mm FAN

Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1500W PSU
ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Silver, Modular, 6x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x 8pin PCIe, 12x SATA
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Cheers!

joelarvidsson@gmail.com


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Pepijn Klijs
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 12, 2012 at 7:26:49 am

Dont you need a second graphic card?

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Joel Arvidsson
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 15, 2012 at 9:15:54 pm

I will add an quadro 600 or so for gui.

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Joel Arvidsson
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 15, 2012 at 9:18:53 pm

I decided I better go with the supermicro computer. But what perfomance will I get from the dual 2620? will it give me smooth 4k realtime Half-debayer premium playback without the redrocket?



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Alan Gordon
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 17, 2012 at 4:52:31 pm

I just built a system around the Z9 PE-D8 WS. And dual 2670 2.6GHZ processors. And as of yet I can only get 1/2 premium at real-time in Resolve. The 2620 is slower than that so 1/2 good may be the all you can get and maybe not even that. Davinci uses 8 cores for DPDecode, which appears to do the decode, so I don't even think it's leveraging full 16 cores. I think you need the dual 2787w 3.1Ghz processors to get full debayer real time.

The 1650 can only be used in single cpu systems and therefor is NOT a good match for the motherboards you list. If you use it, you lose HALF of the RAM and PCI-e capacity. If you went 6 core high clock route, go with the i7 CPUs and maybe overclock.

The Asus board is very well designed, but I have been having some boot issues. Also, 16 RAM DIMMS would have been nice as well.

I recommend at least 32GB RAM for Davinci as V9 can use quite a bit being 64bit. And you also want to have it spread over 4 DIMMS on a single CPU system or 8 DIMMS on a dual cpu system.

Watercooling is not really necessary with Xeons except maybe the 2780w because they are relatively low TDP.

I also went with a 256GB SSD, but I'm wishing I had gotten at 512. Or Dual 256. With all the caching that Premiere and After Effects do, I run out of space quickly.


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Joel Arvidsson
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 18, 2012 at 8:23:11 am

What is the most important for adobe premiere working in the timeline and in resolve. More cores or more ghz? Can the xeon 2640 2.5ghz 6 cores be faster than the 2650 with 8cores 2.0ghz? In benchmarks sure the 2650 probely be faster but in real life working in the timeline?

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Joel Arvidsson
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 20, 2012 at 1:17:33 pm

Alan, are you working at 1/2 premium debayer and it runs smooth? Or have you just tried playback a few clips with this setting? My goal is to achieve 1/2 premium debayer but the cost is an issue. Otherwise I been getting the 2687 in a heartbeat. Can you confirm that the 2670 in your system with no redrocket runs 24fps smooth realtime? (I need to run in 25fps). Also have you got intel turbo on those processors or not?

joelarvidsson@gmail.com


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Pepijn Klijs
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 18, 2012 at 8:39:21 am

Hi Joel,

Regarding the graphic card setup: please be aware that premiere uses the card connected to your monitors for it's cuda processing. In the build you are describing resolve will use the quadro 600 just as GUI, but premiere however will use it for all it's processing, and then quadro 600 ain't that much horsepower.

I suggest you swap that one for a gtx 570, 580, 680 etc

Editor/Colorist, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Joel Arvidsson
Re: Dual xeon system, cpu qustion and more
on Oct 18, 2012 at 10:09:04 am

Thanks, will switch the quadro 600 for one of those. Ideally would be if there had been an option in premiere to choose wich card to use for gpu acceleration. I bet it is coming.

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