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Sascha Haber
Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 4, 2015 at 8:34:21 am

Hi guys,

i was trying to use the consolidate functions yesterday and i could only parts of work out.

The project is 100% ARRI Amira and the conform worked flawlessly.
It is mostly talking heads with 50min continuous shots, so a lot of re-use of the same clip

1.Use source clips full extends - WORKS
I ended up using this method with generates 600 gig of data from the 2 TB source.

2.Consolidate Multi Edit extends - DOES NOT WORK
Every time the generated QT files were unplayable, also it only did a few, felt like its overwriting itsself

3.Consolidate to Segments. - WORKS but does not relink
I tried the IMPORT " Additional Clips with loose/tight name fit"
Only the first clip with no S00X suffix will be found.

I guess i am doing something wrong on the 3. version, but i have no clue why nr.2 created broken files.

Anyone ??

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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 4, 2015 at 3:01:18 pm

Haven't tried this with the latest 11.3 version, but in previous versions it worked flawlessly. I've consolidated ArriRaw .ari file sequences with handles as well as R3D with handles. The multi-edit thing I haven't tried as it didn't make sense to my workflow.

I haven't tried with Arri Amira ProRes files yet. But Sony F65 .mxf did work on the one occasion I tried a while ago.

And yes, after consolidating I did a 'confidence check' conform in a new project.
Conformed consolidated files to the original XML.

Maybe its broken with 11.3? Will try to find time (and examples) and try with ProRes files.

One more thing. In a timeline of ArriRaw and Sony F65 mixed, I had to move the F65 files to another layer and then do consolidate on ArriRaw and F65 in separate passes, else it doesn't work for the F65 - get full clips.

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Marc Wielage
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 5, 2015 at 12:18:16 am

[Neil Sadwelkar] "One more thing. In a timeline of ArriRaw and Sony F65 mixed, I had to move the F65 files to another layer and then do consolidate on ArriRaw and F65 in separate passes, else it doesn't work for the F65 - get full clips."
I recently had a similar situation with CinemaDNG clips and R3D clips, and came up with the exact same solution. At times like this, I really wish that crews would shoot on just one kind of camera... but sadly, I think those days are gone.


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Sascha Haber
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 5, 2015 at 5:49:37 am

The clips i was trying to consolidate are all from the exact same take...on one timeline.
Just 12 different time codes, no time stretching, no fancy stuff.

What bugs me is that there is no automatic relink, which is silly.
I am pretty sure the xxx_S001 attempt is the right one, much more efficient as full clip extends, but if it does not relink i am stuck

The difference is just 550 gig ;)

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Neil Sadwelkar
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 5, 2015 at 9:02:47 am

I just did a test.

On a MacPro cylinder OSX 10.9.5 with Resolve 11.2
Arri Alexa ProRes4444 clips three of them
Cut them into a rough edit in FCP 7
Exported a XML and a ref mov

Opened a new project in Resolve. Set conform options to
Assist using reel names from the: Embedded in source clip file.
Imported original clips in Resolve 11.2 and conformed to the XML. Checked against offline.
Imported clips show Reel name correctly in Media Pool.

Then I consolidated this sequence with the settings...
Deselect 'Use source clip full extents'
Deselect 'Consolidate multi-edit extents'
Add: 12 frame handles
Preserve: 4 levels after head

Consolidated clips.

Then I made a new Resolve project
Same conform options
Imported consolidated clips
Consolidated clips have accurate metadata including Reel names

Imported original FCP XML
Consolidated clips conform correctly, checked against ref edit too.

And, my edit has one reverse shot, two repeated shots, and one shot at 1000%.
All conform fine.

Original shots - 28.39 GB - 09:47 min
Consolidated shots - 2.21 GB - 26 sec
(w 12 fr handles)

I'm using Resolve 11.2. So, unless this is broken in Resolve 11.3, or unless this doesn't work without handles, I can't say why yours isn't working.

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Sascha Haber
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 8, 2015 at 3:01:40 pm
Last Edited By Sascha Haber on Jun 8, 2015 at 3:05:38 pm

The moment I use a clip more than one and Resolve writes this :A052C016_150112_R4GA_S000.mov the conform will fail here.
I am doing something wrong, i guess, but i can not figure out what it is, because, according to the manual it should re-conform the clips from the segments.
The segments are there...they have been correctly consolidated, i can relink to them manually.
But it won't import them with Loose Names, neither will it use them in a new assemble which is not an option anyway as I changed the timeline from the original AVID AAF.



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jake blackstone
Re: Consolidate bug ?
on Jun 8, 2015 at 10:11:14 pm

"Use source clips full extends" will just pull full clips to the new location.
"Consolidate Multi Edit extends" will pull only clips used with IN point using the beginning of the first take in the clip and with OUT point will be the end of the last take on that clip.
"Consolidate to Segments" will consolidate only the material used. Because there is a possibility of multiple takes with same names, Resolve will do the "unique names" trick, by adding the suffix, like S_000, S_001 etc.
So, for that conform to work, you must export a new XML, AAF etc. The new XML will take the new unique name into an account.


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