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anand kamal
Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 8, 2015 at 11:05:19 pm

Hi friends, I am new to color grading. I have graded a footage applying LUTs. Inside Resolve, the footage is bright and sharp. After I render and watch it in vlc player, it is slightly dull. This look is seen in all render forms like dnxhd 444, dnxhd 220/10bit.

I haven't calibrated the monitor (LED HP pavilion 22fi)...Just tried my hands on grading. Why is this difference occuring? Should i consider this dull output and tweak a little extreme in resolve?

https://images.creativecow.net/273943/resolvcolordifference.jpg

thanks.


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 8, 2015 at 11:53:08 pm

Sorry, but there is absolutely no way anyone here, or elsewhere for that matter, can possibly answer your question. Without a calibrated monitor no one can know how your grade relates to accurate color or luminance. accuracy.

David Roth Weiss
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Robert Ruffo
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 9, 2015 at 4:49:08 am

h264 can have issues and likely you mismatched Limited with Full video spaces between what you were working in and what you rendered in. Simply try rendering in a new choice between Limited and Full.

It's counter-intuitive to some but Limited render will lift blacks and reduce whites to fit within limited space. If you have been working in Limited, Full will clip blacks and whites outside the range.


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Sascha Haber
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 9, 2015 at 8:36:45 am

These settings should change according to the project I suggest.
It does not really help that Resolve has this "auto" feature, that is like judging fields on AVID (which is impossible)
And if auto IS in effect, at least in the delivery dialogue it should tell one what it's going to be.
The option to work with or render either unlimited data or limited video is great, it just makes it hard to really get what ones needs.

Resolve 11.2 - Smoke 2015 EXT1SP2 - Sapphire 8
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anand kamal
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 9, 2015 at 11:01:56 pm

Thanks Robert, what is limited and full video space?

My source footage is 5d3 RAW magic lantern (cdng files). How do I render with a full video space?

I tried dnxhd 444 and the result was the same.


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anand kamal
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 9, 2015 at 10:58:05 pm

David, is it like the non-calibrated monitor will show difference between players or between a software & a player? The difference is visible in the same monitor. So i thought my settings in the software were wrong..


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Michael Gissing
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 15, 2015 at 4:27:44 am

Gamma settings can differ between an application like Resolve or an NLE displaying on a computer monitor and a player like VLC. Really the best way to judge is on an external monitor that is calibrated via a Decklink card from Resolve.


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Sascha Haber
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 15, 2015 at 10:09:49 am

Which is the only place you will never see it again ;)
I prefer to upload my finals to Vimeo.
THAT is the reality check one needs those days.

Resolve 11.2 - Smoke 2015 EXT1SP2 - Sapphire 8
Colorist / VFX Guru / Aerial footage nerd
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anand kamal
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 15, 2015 at 1:14:56 pm

Thanks Michael.. i will get my monitor calibrated.

And Sascha Haber, vow friend, Vimeo shows the footage almost like in the Resolve. So I can check the outcome in vimeo now and then.. thanks pal


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Sascha Haber
Re: Grade difference within and outside Resolve, why?
on Feb 15, 2015 at 2:20:23 pm

Cool :) then you did something right..
The only thing you should never trust is quicktime player.
Starting with the different gamma on PC and mac, the auto gamma features of ProRes4444 and of course the horrible Quicktime X makes this the least desirable option.
Sadly, and because of it's good heritage and crappy implementation in the Cook area, people still think QT Player does the job.
VLC is what you really want to use.

Resolve 11.2 - Smoke 2015 EXT1SP2 - Sapphire 8
Colorist / VFX Guru / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber
https://dk.linkedin.com/in/saschahaber


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