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Ross Shain
mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 18, 2014 at 8:20:26 pm

Hey folks,
In the past Imagineer has had requests from Resolve users for mocha support.

This video captured at IBC 2014 might be useful for training. Ben Heusner shows how he exports multi-layer Red/Green/Blue tracked masks out of mocha Pro to get 3 real time secondary color correctors using 1 mocha export.

Resolve section starts around 17:45 Hope this is useful.

Cheers,
Ross







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Juan Salvo
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 18, 2014 at 10:42:10 pm

Thanks Ross. That's great. Any chance of imagineer Systems developing an OFX mocha shape tool like the one for After Effects? Would be handy to keep the data live, so to speak.

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Margus Voll
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 6:05:52 am

I agree with Juan that AE like paste option would be great.

I'm sure it is doable if BM finds it useful.

Also can you tell if only rgb masks are options or can there be more in one mate?

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Ross Shain
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 3:05:51 pm

Hi Margus,
You can simply render as many B&W mattes out of mocha as you want and connect them as external mattes in Resolve. mocha can render the mattes with variable feathered edges and motion blur.

I think the cool feature that Ben showed in the mentioned video was to get 3 separate matte files out in one file by rendering them full Red, Green, Blue colors and then using each as a separate secondary.

Most users would simply use separate black & white mattes, but this RGB method speeds up the render and reduces the data.

Cheers,
Ross

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Margus Voll
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 3:09:36 pm

Thanks!

This is what i was wondering if only rgb or lets say 6 colours.

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Ross Shain
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 3:16:44 pm

I do not know Resolve features that well yet, but I would assume you could render many mocha masks as colors and then use color keys from this external source.

The nice thing of Ben's workflow is it simply channels the RGB into channels without any more setup.

Best,
Ross

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Ross Shain
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 3:01:26 pm

Hi Juan,
The ideal workflow is to be able to paste (or import) the mocha mask data directly into Resolve like we do for After Effects, Premiere, Nuke, Fusion and Flame/Smoke. Resolve currently does not have a mask format that is easily written to. If you'd like to contact the Resolve team and ask for better mocha integration, that might help push the issue's priority. I assume with Fusion acquisition, that better vfx integration is something they will work on. ;)

Imagineer has also thought about an OFX plug-in, so it might be something for the future. ;)

I might also add here, that new Boris FX OFX plug-in for Resolve has an excellent feature available now: import mocha tracking data. This way a Resolve user could import planar tracking data for screen inserts or sky replacements.

I would love to hear from more Resolve users that want to use mocha and Resolve together.

Cheers,
Ross

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Margus Voll
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 19, 2014 at 3:12:36 pm

I have been thinking about it super long time.

Now the example makes usage more clear to me.

For food and other precision stuff i will use my Mocha Pro more and more now.

I really hope BM picks the idea up and integrates import for Resolve and Fusion.

Super powerful stuff!

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Sascha Haber
Re: mocha roto-masks to DaVinci Resolve
on Sep 20, 2014 at 9:34:13 am

I like to have a LOAD Mask button that brings in the shape tracking from Mocha as a power window which leaves all additional options open.
So we still have the inner and out softness, can subtract or add with other masks and have the choice to insert a second video track.
But I am totally fine to wait for Fusiolve ;)

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