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Pete Fausone
Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 3:00:43 am

I am getting real choppy playback on Resolve 11 just trying to playback Prores 4444. Both HD and 2K 23.98 can't even begin to play in Resolve.
Same exact clips on my fast fibre raid playback perfectly in every other software like FCP 7. Shouldn't this setup work for Prores? Maybe I'm missing something. Cuda installed, but do I need to install the nVidia web drivers also or a certain version? FCP 7 works great.

Thanks

MacPro 3,1
8-Core 14GB RAM
GTX 760 2GB
Decklink Extreme HD 3
OS Mountain Lion 10.8.5
BM 10.1.1



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Margus Voll
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 12:16:50 pm

I bet the machine itself is slowest part on your setup if drives are not slow?

Older versions of Resolve did not even work on 3.1

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Doug Elick
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 3:30:39 pm

I have the exact same problem. I've "hot rodded" a Mac Pro 3,1 as a way to learn basic video editing. The trial versions of FCPX and Adobe Premier Pro run on it flawlessly. Specs are:

Mac Pro 3,1 - 2008 "Eight Core" - 3.2 GHz dual quad core Xeons
Mavericks 10.9.4
Crucial M500 240 GB SSD + WD Black 2 TB set up as a fusion drive (250 MB/sec or better)
EVGA GTX 660 FTW ACX
16 GB RAM

No matter what I try, I can't get it to play simple H.234 or CineForm 1080p/30 GoPro video - setting the project to those files' format, but it's ridiculously choppy. I posted this same question to the BlackMagic forum, but so far, no responses.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Doug


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Margus Voll
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 4:15:17 pm

Those files are not good in Resolve imo.

Convert them to prores.

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Joseph Owens
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 5:05:41 pm

[Doug Elick] "can't get it to play simple H.234 or CineForm 1080p/30 GoPro video -"

Long-GOP and other codecs that rely on enormous amounts of i-b-p processing are always going to put an extra strain on processing resources and the hoops that any software has to jump through just push them further and further away from being able to cope with real-time frame rates.

The picture-processing engines in Resolve (for RGB color correction) and Final Cut or any other NLE are different racehorses -- an NLE only ever has to just present the pictures -- in grade, there are several layers of decoding, transcoding, re-mapping and so on that make an NLE image process look trivial.
Drop a three-way correction, speed re-map, geometric adjustment or some other filter on a clip in almost any NLE and right way you will see the application either protest or put up a render request.

jPo

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Doug Elick
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 10, 2014 at 5:45:08 pm

I figured I was using the software wrong or otherwise had incorrect settings; I fully admit I'm about as green as you can get in the world of video editing. However, FCPX and Premiere Pro seem perfectly happy to play Cineform 422 files. Am I to understand Resolve 11 (Lite) is doing so much more in the background that it can't keep up? I'm just trying to get it to play the video at real-time so editing isn't a bear - I haven't tried to add any kind of effects yet.

My understanding is that Resolve 11 has basic Cineform 422 read capability and can do full debayering with a CFHD codec patch from GoPro (Cineform). Or am I better off pulling in the "raw" .mp4 files and converting them to ProRes?

Or, is there a good online resource you could point a newbie to about effectively navigating the alphabet soup of CODECs, intermediate formats and config options? Diving into Resolve probably isn't the easiest approach one could take to learning this art, but FCPX and PP cc aren't exactly simple either. Besides, Resolve Lite is FREE.

Thanks


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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 3:10:07 am

So as per usual my question gets hijacked by people talking about something else entirely.
Does anyone have this setup working with Resolve 11?

MacPro 3,1
8-Core 14GB RAM
GTX 760 2GB
Decklink Extreme HD 3
OS Mountain Lion 10.8.5
BM 10.1.4



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Juan Salvo
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 4:59:20 am

Try setting your video output to 8bit. It could be afew different things. What exactly is performance like?

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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 5:26:33 am

The playback keeps stuttering and stoping for a second and never plays at full 23.98 frame rate.
The indicator is red mostly with a flash of green here and there.



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Juan Salvo
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 6:46:39 am

Sounds like drive issues.

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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 2:24:52 pm

No my very fast fibre raid is just fine. Same exact ProRes clips playback effortlessly in every other software on my system.
It's only Resolve that can't.



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Doug Elick
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 4:30:13 pm
Last Edited By Doug Elick on Sep 11, 2014 at 4:42:06 pm

Sorry if my posts constituted a hijack. The symptoms you are experiencing are identical to what I'm seeing on similar hardware.

I'm beginning to think Resolve 11 isn't leveraging my GPU properly. It finds it during launch, but it's not on the list of selectable cards in settings. Does your card show up there or is it missing as well? FWIW, I've verified CUDA and openCL work on my machine, but am beginning to suspect a driver version mis-match that Resolve doesn't like - page 9 of the Mac Configuration guide alludes to this.


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Juan Salvo
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 4:42:24 pm

Are you both on the latest CUDA?

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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 8:01:56 pm

These forums always tend to drift off the original topic, sorry I am just way frustrated with this.
Resolve shows my GTX760 as the GPU, and I have the latest CUDA that will install into ML 10.8.5
I am not in front of it right now but I will look for the list of cards in Resolve. I will do some more tests later today. I hope it's not because I have a 3,1 Mac.
I have also tried BM 10.1.1 and 10.1.4 drivers.

Thanks



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Joseph Owens
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 9:04:22 pm

[Pete Fausone] "Resolve shows my GTX760 as the GPU"

You're trying to run with only one GPU using it as both UI and color render?

jPo

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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 11, 2014 at 9:30:32 pm

Yes, but because this machine is only for conform all it needs to do is playback decent.
I tried leaving the old ATI card in but the machine wouldn't boot. Which slot would you use for the GTX760?
I have it in the lowest #1 slot right now.



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Sascha Haber
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 12, 2014 at 7:44:04 am

Well Pete,

the reason this forum drifts often away from the topic is that almost 90% of the questions in here are misplaced.
They should be in the "Basics and configurations' forum as this one has been dedicated to grading talk.
But all we do (since its too cheap , or even free ) is to talk about peoples attempts of running a perfectly performing software on a potato.
The guys at BMD did am amazing job to make this software sooo accessible , the only thing they ask with their config guide is that people follow this guide and use proper hardware.
And by that I do not mean 3 Titans in a Cubix or a 2000 mbs flash array.
But it can not , in any way, be as centered around ProRes as FCP X is.
In fact, most media files , like MPGs and stuff are not meant for editing or grading work, they are a playback product.

So as much as we understand your frustration with your hardware, you have to acknowledge its 7 years old now and not all new software will perform equally.

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Pete Fausone
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 12, 2014 at 9:41:06 pm

8 bit solved it.
Thanks Juan,

I had it on 10 bit. It doesn't just make playback better it fixes it entirely, like the on off switch for smooth playback. Since this old machine is just for conform this will do for now.
I can always make sure I'm on 10 bit if I render out a flat file for someone.



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Juan Salvo
Re: Bad playback in Resolve 11 on MacPro 3,1
on Sep 13, 2014 at 1:05:54 am

8/10bit is just for monitoring. Renders are still 32bit float. Your issue is just old Mac Pro with slow bus.

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