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Sascha Haber
Standard Candle R10
on Jan 22, 2014 at 3:53:20 pm
Last Edited By Sascha Haber on Jan 27, 2014 at 4:31:09 pm

Hello everyone,

now that Resolve 10.1 is out officially and people are getting their hands on new MacPros, its time to update the Standard Candle.
A standard candle is a known source of luminosity .
It defines the distance of an object based on its magnitude
Here some more detailed information what it is used in astronomy :
http://www.astro.ex.ac.uk/people/hatchell/rinr/candles.pdf

I created a Resolve document that everyone can import and flick through the versions to see how much GPU performance their system has.
Please post the numbers and refer to this thread as a reference how "good" your system performs.
There is only one footage file used and it comes with the installer of Resolve and Resolve Light.
So the only thing you need to do is to use the "Change source folder" function to re-link to the file called "Tutorial - Tracking.mov"

The project itself is HD with 100% default values , the footage is HD this time but again its not relevant for disk performance.
This test is designed to put stress on your GPU pipeline, so be sure you have enough cooling.
When testing please load VERSION 1 first, press play and check your FPS.
Lets it spool up an check out on what FPS number it settles in.
If it flicks between two numbers, go for the lower one and discard the .5
Press Stop and advance to the next version.
The TNR nodes will shuffle image around so there is no looping memory cache.

Here the results from our system.

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.4 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 20GB
OSX 10.8.5
Display : Quadro 4000
GPU : Cubix Desktop with 3x GTX 680

V01 06 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 12 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 24 blur nodes 22 fps
V04 36 blur nodes 15 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 13 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 08 fps

Here is the link to the updated R10.2 version
http://carousel.hu/standardcandle/

Post you results and system specs in this thread and keep the discussion short.
If you can please do tests on OSX 10.8.5 and OSX 10.9.1 using the same hardware.
Windows and Linux specs are more than welcome as well :)

Happy testing !

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Colin Travers
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 22, 2014 at 5:02:48 pm

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 48GB RAM
OSX 10.8.5
Resolve Version: 10.1.0.021
Display : GTX580 3GB EVGA
GPU : Cubix Desktop with 4x GTX Titan

V01 06 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 12 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 24 blur nodes 24 fps
V04 36 blur nodes 24 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 21 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 14 fps


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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 22, 2014 at 6:01:18 pm

All right...all right...seems like we need more normal nodes for the Titans.
Colin, could you double Version 3 or 4 and see if it bogs down below 24 ?

But nice to see the TNR is almost the same.
Could anyone from BMD chime in and let us know if TNR is CPU or GPU dependent ?
And what is the status of AMD ?

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Laco Gaal
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 22, 2014 at 8:10:06 pm

Sascha, would you mind if I would host it? It would never expire, and we could update it to every new version.
link (not quite ready yet, but almost): http://carousel.hu/standardcandle/


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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 23, 2014 at 9:36:47 am

Hey Laco,

thanks for the offer, much appreciated...
I just updated the test to also put some stress on Titans...
Here is the link and my numbers again...

https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/348346ce39ecf9204f99dbe196907d00201401...

So everyone, give this one a shot and let us know if its to much now.
If not this will become the new standard.

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.4 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 20GB
OSX 10.8.5
Display : Quadro 4000
GPU : Cubix Desktop with 3x GTX 680

V01 09 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 18 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 30 blur nodes 18 fps
V04 66 blur nodes 09 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 13 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 08 fps

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Laco Gaal
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 23, 2014 at 9:40:16 am

link updated!


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Colin Travers
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 23, 2014 at 3:30:38 pm

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 48GB
OSX 10.8.5
Resolve Version: 10.1.0.021
Display : GTX580 3GB EVGA
GPU : Cubix Desktop with 4x GTX Titan

V01 09 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 18 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 30 blur nodes 24 fps
V04 66 blur nodes 15 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 22 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 14 fps


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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 23, 2014 at 9:27:19 pm

Good :)
That might be the highest score we will see.

Come on guys, give us some low numbers now...anyone with a standard system ?

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 23, 2014 at 10:01:18 pm

Have a new 6 core d500's on eval. Couldn't get d700 8 core :(

Will run the test in the morning.


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John Hamlik
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 5:43:34 am

Mac Pro 6,1 Late 2013
Processor 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 with 64GB
OSX 10.9.1
Resolve Version: 10.1.0.021
Display : AMD FirePro D700 6144MB
GPU : AMD FirePro D700 6144MB

V01 09 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 18 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 30 blur nodes 24 fps
V04 66 blur nodes 6 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 13 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 9 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 7 fps


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 1:49:15 pm

Mac Pro 6,1 Late 2013
Processor 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 with 16GB
OSX 10.9.1
Resolve Version: 10.1.0.021
2 X D500 3Gig Ram

Shots so short it doesn't get upto speed :-/

Also the Blurs are Blur > Sharpen > Blur .. kit misleading. Plus they are matted.

Where do we measure the FPS from ?

S



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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 2:15:02 pm

I guess if it doesnt get up to speed it means you have not enough power for that flow.
Blur sharpen blur keeps the image half intact so we dont have a blurry mess in the end.

I might have saved the project starting in Version 4, please start in Version 1 which should play on all system.
The FPS show up in the upper left corner

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 2:32:45 pm

No I know where the FPS is. it takes a bit for it to go from 0fps upto a constant 24

It ramps up.. every Resolve I've worked on does.

The clips so short.

If I do it on a longer clip it works.



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Al Arnold
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 29, 2014 at 7:51:28 pm

[Simon Blackledge] "No I know where the FPS is. it takes a bit for it to go from 0fps upto a constant 24

It ramps up.. every Resolve I've worked on does.

The clips so short.

If I do it on a longer clip it works."


Use the loop function. :)


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 3:33:18 pm

What I mean is when you hit play does it say 24 straight away ?



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Margus Voll
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 3:40:29 pm

It means i get ok NR numbers despite my low GPU power in comparison.

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DaVinci 10, OSX 10.8.5
MacPro 5.1 2x2,93 24GB
GUI 4000 / GPU GTX 780
DL 4K
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Scope Box
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Margus Voll
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 25, 2014 at 8:36:10 am

Seems to work out nice?!

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Margus

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DaVinci 10, OSX 10.8.5
MacPro 5.1 2x2,93 24GB
GUI 4000 / GPU GTX 780
DL 4K
Eizo Color
Scope Box
Full Ligthspace CMS


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Clark Bierbaum
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Mar 4, 2014 at 2:38:41 am

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 24GB
OSX 10.9.2
Display : EVGA GTX Titan Black Signature w/ FSP 450 watt booster

scr10_20140123 Test Version

Wow, one card and I'm only 1 fps slower than 4x titans and a 580 for gpu!!! 13fps!

Does running the new version change anything for you, Colin???

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
GarnetColor.com
Charlotte, NC


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Angelos Papadopoulos
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Apr 27, 2014 at 3:32:48 pm

Hello There !

my name is Angelos

I have also a Mac pro desktop 5,1
with 20 Gb ram and i want to update my graphics Card from the HD radeon 5870 to the new GTX Titan black.
I was thinking for the evga super clocked or the Gigabite version (in my country i can find easier the Gigabite version)

Here are some questions if you could answer to me.
Is there any issue with the card?
Does the card workes out of the box?
In the specifications i read that the card needs a 600W PSU and the PSU of the
mac pro desctop 5,1 is 980W if i am not wrong.
So does it really need an extra PSU for the card if you are only going to use one card?

Thanx!


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Margus Voll
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Apr 28, 2014 at 5:33:24 am

Without external power Titan probably will kill your mac.

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Margus

http://iconstudios.eu
https://vimeo.com/iconstudioseu/videos

DaVinci 10, OSX 10.8.5
MacPro 5.1 2x2,93 24GB
GUI 4000 / GPU GTX 780
DL 4K
Eizo Color
Scope Box
Full Ligthspace CMS


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Clark Bierbaum
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 8:44:39 pm
Last Edited By Clark Bierbaum on Jan 24, 2014 at 8:57:10 pm

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 24GB
OSX 10.8.5
Display : EVGA GTX 680 w/ FSP 450 watt booster
GPU : Cyclone PCIe 2-427 Expansion Board w/ 2x EVGA GTX 580 Classified

V01 09 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 18 blur nodes 24 fps
V03 30 blur nodes 18 fps
V04 66 blur nodes 09 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 13 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 09 fps

Guess I'll wait to upgrade! $8k saved!

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
GarnetColor.com
Charlotte, NC


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Margus Voll
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 2:52:45 pm
Last Edited By Margus Voll on Jan 24, 2014 at 2:56:08 pm

Hi.

V01 06 blur nodes 24 fps
V02 12 blur nodes 19 fps
V03 24 blur nodes 10 fps
V04 36 blur nodes 07 fps
V05 01 TNR nodes 24 fps
V06 02 TNR nodes 24 fps
V07 03 TNR nodes 11 fps
V08 04 TNR nodes 07 fps


Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 24GB
OSX 10.8.5
Display : Quadro 4000
GPU : 1 x GTX 780 (PC version, no external power)

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Margus

http://iconstudios.eu
https://vimeo.com/iconstudioseu/videos

DaVinci 10, OSX 10.8.5
MacPro 5.1 2x2,93 24GB
GUI 4000 / GPU GTX 780
DL 4K
Eizo Color
Scope Box
Full Ligthspace CMS


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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 3:07:43 pm

Is it just me or does it look like TNR nodes are more CPU than GPU dependent ?

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Margus Voll
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Jan 24, 2014 at 3:12:34 pm

Than may be the case as my first numbers seem sort of okay.

BM probably could chime in on that.

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Margus

http://iconstudios.eu
https://vimeo.com/iconstudioseu/videos

DaVinci 10, OSX 10.8.5
MacPro 5.1 2x2,93 24GB
GUI 4000 / GPU GTX 780
DL 4K
Eizo Color
Scope Box
Full Ligthspace CMS


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Sascha Haber
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Feb 15, 2014 at 4:43:18 pm

Guys , can i bother you to run the test again with the new R10.2 version ?

I am getting much lower numbers out of my MacPro 6,1 than John Hamlik for example.
John, are you sure you ran the latest one ?
I have the same config you have, but my numbers are almost half that.
Or am I doing something wrong ?

A slice of color...

Resolve 10.1.0.021
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Cyra Emery
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Feb 27, 2014 at 9:31:46 pm

Custom Build by Iconic Worksations
4.3GHz 6-core, 32GBs RAM,2x GTX 690 on 10.8.5. I saw the same performance in 10.9.2 as well, perhaps even times where it seemed a half frame lower.

Monitors plugged into the top 690 and the box checked to use GUI for renders.

Blur Nodes:
09 24
18 24
30 24
66 12
TNR:
1 24
2 24
4 15
6 9


Sascha,Do you have the box checked to use your GUI for rendering as well? It is Preferences-> I/O. That would certainly explain why you might score half what a duplicate system does.


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Clark Bierbaum
Re: Standard Candle R10
on Mar 4, 2014 at 2:11:24 am
Last Edited By Clark Bierbaum on Mar 4, 2014 at 2:24:39 am

Mac Pro 5.1
Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon with 24GB
OSX 10.9.2
Display / GPU: EVGA GTX Titan Black Signature w/ FSP 450 watt booster

66 Blur 5 fps.
6 TNR, 9 fps. Not bad for 1 card!

Will post more later.

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
GarnetColor.com
Charlotte, NC


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Bruno Amaral
Re: Standard Candle R10
on May 26, 2014 at 2:15:39 pm

Hi Clark,

I just installed a similar setup to yours with a Titan Black and FSP Booster X5.
I'm only getting 10fps playback ungraded footage in Davinci Resolve Lite. When I install the GT120 in slot 2 of my Macpro and have the GUI display connected to the Titan Black, same playback of ungraded footage goes up to 24fps. Do you know why is this?

The problem is that when I have the 2 cards (Titan Black + GT120), if I connect the GUI Display to the Titan I get nice playback fps, and very slow GT120 processing. If I connect GUI display to GT120 I have slow playback fps (10fps for ungraded footage) and fast processing. And if I have just the Titan Black for GUI and Processing I still have slow fps playback (10fps for ungraded footage).

What am I doing wrong??

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks

Bruno

Bruno A.

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Colin Travers
Re: Standard Candle R10
on May 26, 2014 at 2:58:26 pm

Don't use the GT120 only use TITAN for GUI/GPU. That 120 is crippling your setup.


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Bruno Amaral
Re: Standard Candle R10
on May 26, 2014 at 4:01:57 pm

Thats what I did a couple hours ago, but I only get 10fps playback speed of ungraded footage. Very slow for a Titan Black no?
What else could be crippling the speed?

If I put the GT120 and leave the GUI display connected to the Titan like it is right now, I get 24fps playback. Weird...

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