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Sascha Engel
Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 12:38:31 pm

Hi Guys,

Can you help me with tutorials?
What is the Best, most complete and if possible, not most expansive Training Tutorial for Davinci?
Is RippleTraining a good choice?


Thanx.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Sascha Haber
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 1:07:59 pm

http://www.fxphd.com/store/fast-forward-resolve-2012-fundamentals/

By far the best, most complete, easy to understand and you get to work on the footage while you see it develop under your pen.

A slice of color...

Resolve 9.1.4 , Smoke 2013 EXT
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Sascha Engel
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 1:49:34 pm

But is it really worth all the extra money? Usually Ripple Training is great, and they charge 80.-Bucks for a 11 hour course. This one is 200.- - that's more than double the price.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Simon Biel
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 23, 2013 at 4:05:35 pm

Thanks for the resource. Does it apply to Resolve 8 as well?


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Ryan Holmes
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 2:46:42 pm

[Sascha Engel] "What is the Best, most complete"

Well, to be fair, you did ask for the best tutorials available, not the cheapest ones available. Warren Eagles is solid. fxphd has a great track record as well for great content.

You could also check out http://www.taoofcolor.com for paid tutorials. He also does excellent work.

Ryan Holmes
http://www.ryanholmes.me
@CutColorPost


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Jordan Mena
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 4:49:55 pm

I did the Ripple training and was off and running. Great way to learn the software.

Good luck!

Jordan Mena | Editor | Colorist | Producer
Los Angeles, CA
jordanmena.com


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Alexis Hurkman
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:28:18 pm

Best is relative. Warren, Patrick and I all have very different teaching styles, and tackle the application and the process of grading in different ways, and over different durations. I've got a hard time being self-serving enough to make any sort of recommendation, other then to say that I've spoken to some who feel our products are somewhat complementary, so I don't think you can go wrong. Check out the samples and see who you like listening to and watching the most.

http://www.alexisvanhurkman.com | http://www.correctionforcolor.com


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Mel Matsuoka
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 22, 2013 at 11:07:49 pm

Let me be "that guy", and remind everyone who thinks that $200 is too expensive for Resolve training that this is a product that used to cost six-figures to own and operate only a few years ago.

Paying $200 to get training from a guy like Warren--who has used Resolve professionally since it was first released nearly a decade ago––is hardly a drop in the bucket, if you intend to use this software professionally.



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Jordan Mena
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 23, 2013 at 4:18:14 am

You can't beat Alexis's dry wit. Worth the payment alone.

Jordan Mena | Editor | Colorist | Producer
Los Angeles, CA
jordanmena.com


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Sascha Engel
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 23, 2013 at 4:16:25 am

Hallo Guys,

Thanx for all the feedback. First of all, I did say the best around, but also not too expansive.
When I asked about comparison of the Rippletraining with others, it was not, cause I think 200.- ain't worth it, but simple to see, wether the training for 80.- will be fine also. Yes, I do leave in a place where 200.- bucks is quiet some money ;-)
Did actually somebody do the Tao of Colour training?
I really like those guys work and wonder if the training is as good as their film work?


Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Sascha Haber
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 23, 2013 at 6:22:26 am

200 is what you pay when you bring in your car for service...
They will do the work...ONE time..
Guess what you would need to pay for them teaching you how to fix your car yourself ;)

A slice of color...

Resolve 9.1.4 , Smoke 2013 EXT
Colorist / VFX / Aerial footage nerd
http://vimeo.com/saschahaber


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Patrick Inhofer
Re: Best tutorial
on Jul 24, 2013 at 1:54:02 am

[Sascha Engel] "Did actually somebody do the Tao of Colour training?
I really like those guys work and wonder if the training is as good as their film work?"


Well, we do offer a 60-day no-questions-asked refund should you decide you don't like the Tao training. Pretty much no-risk.

I've had plenty of members remark to me who have taken the training from Alexis, Warren and myself that they learned something new from each of us - and rather than completely duplicative they feel like they walked away from three different colorists approaching the same app with their unique perspectives and emphasis on what they teach.

And that, to me, is the coolest thing of all.

Patrick Inhofer
Colorist / Finisher, Fini, nyc
Founder, Tao Of Color.com
Co-Founder, MixingLight.com


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Kannan Raghavan
Re: Best tutorial
on Aug 2, 2013 at 1:09:21 pm

I've attended a 3 day Resolve workshop taught by Warren Eagles. It was amazing. He makes it very simple. It's definitely worth the money mate. Go for it:)

Kannan Raghavan
The Big Toad Films Pte. Ltd.


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Sascha Engel
Re: Best tutorial
on Aug 5, 2013 at 10:01:46 am

A little tip for fast tutorial inputting (Matrix Style ;-):
For me, most tutorial narrators speak waaaaay to slow and it takes ages.
hard to cop with for somebody hyperactive.
My solution: Open the Tuts in QT Player and set the playback speed to 1,5x - it still fully understandable, but cuts down the time tremendously. :-)

Greetz,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Steve Doubledark
Re: Best tutorial
on Jan 6, 2015 at 1:13:36 am
Last Edited By Steve Doubledark on Jan 6, 2015 at 10:57:33 am

I'll resurrect this thread rather than start a new one on the same topic

Two issues I have with most tutorials, is
a) the presenter skips small, seemingly to them, insignificant steps. This causes frustration with the learning process.
b) hours of "you do this here and you do this here" style teaching. A far better way would be (in the case of Resolve) to use a real project and show in detail the workflow.

If you're an educator, then someone who has teaching skills, should be able to take your notes and teach from those notes.

So, with that in mind; do any of the courses mentioned use this approach ?


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Sascha Engel
Re: Best tutorial
on Jan 6, 2015 at 7:10:24 am

Good point. As far as I know, not. Unfortunately.

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang


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Steve Doubledark
Re: Best tutorial
on Jan 12, 2015 at 4:58:01 am

I found this on YouTube





There are 7(?) videos in the series and it shows video editing in PremierePro, audio editing in another app and finally in episode 5 he moves to resolve. Now, the first few episodes are way too long so I skipped through them fairly quickly, but it is at least a real life project that the author is working on.

If only the RippleTraining/Lynda/Colorist Flight School people would structure their videos with a small, not too complicated real-life project to demonstrate how Resolve works. Then, bring in the more in-depth explanations and again do it by showing real-life examples rather than feeding dry "to achieve this, you do this" information.


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Ryan Holmes
Re: Best tutorial
on Jan 12, 2015 at 5:10:53 am

[Steve Doubledark] "Then, bring in the more in-depth explanations and again do it by showing real-life examples rather than feeding dry "to achieve this, you do this" information."

Steve, I'm sympathetic to the "simplest approach" idea, but you have to realize that color correction is very difficult. Any are where a person can specialize is never a simple field! :-) DaVinci is a highly complex software and the training listed above is actually a highly simplified form already. Ripple, Lynda, Tao of Color, fxphd, etc. are all highly knowledgable places to start your learning. No one solution will teach you everything you need or want to know. It takes years to learn all the different ways of doing things. I've been working as a colorist for almost 8 years now and there's still new tricks I learn...sometimes from the above mentioned training.

Many of the above listed solutions will let you download footage and do a "grade along" as you learn. It just takes time to learn and practice. And you can always learn a lot by taking your own footage and practicing on that. It will make you a better cameraman when you start to learn how the footage works within the computer.

Ryan Holmes
http://www.ryanholmes.me
@CutColorPost


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Steve Doubledark
Re: Best tutorial
on Jan 12, 2015 at 5:29:38 am

Hi Ryan

I agree that colour grading is a very involved speciality. And because it's so complicated, the tutor needs to start with the assumption that the student knows nothing other than that they need to colour grade some footage.

Having just watched the Youtube videos by MiesnerMedia, I now have a feel for how the process works. Now I'm ready to learn more details. And, for me, a good way would be to work thru a more involved grade where more features are explored. But the features need a reason to be used, rather than a dry explanation.

When I was a kid, a great scientist named Professor Julius Sumner Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Sumner_Miller) had a TV program and his catch phrase was "why is it so". It explained science through demonstrating the science, rather than scribbling formulas on a blackboard.


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