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Clark Bierbaum
Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 15, 2013 at 4:31:21 pm

Just updated MacPro 5.1 to 10.8.3 and CUDA 5.0.45 and all seems to work with Resolve. Please take all precautions (backup, not in middle of project etc.) before updating and don't hold me responsible if your results vary.

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
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Paul Provost
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 15, 2013 at 5:31:24 pm

Cuda update available, mentioned on another forum

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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 15, 2013 at 7:28:59 pm

Is there specific reason why you rushed to do the OS and CUDA update before the official blessing from BM?


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Clark Bierbaum
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 15, 2013 at 9:17:33 pm

Jake,

Had the time and will be starting several long form projects in the near future, and with Time Machine, why not? Thought it might be useful information for some, nice to give back.

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
GarnetColor.com
Charlotte, NC


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 15, 2013 at 11:40:06 pm

That's what I thought:-)
Why do it, when all you have to do is to just wait a little for BM to bless the new OS and CUDA and all is good.
ESPECIALLY, if you're going to do "several long form projects in the near future". Have you done an exhaustive testing of Resolve under various operating conditions, with various codecs, with various deliverables, with various panels etc? Just leave the qualifying of the OS and other important bits to professionals.
You think you're doing public good, but in reality, it is never a good idea to disregard manufacturers recommendations...


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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 12:16:13 am

I see a major reason to update to 10.8.3, and that is Radeon 7xxx support. Personally, I can hardly wait for BMD to approve this update, because I could put a single-slot 7750 in my Mac Pro as a GUI card, as it requires zero aux power connectors.


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 12:47:22 am

Yes, you can take your chances or you could spend $40 on GT120 and use approved hardware instead. Is $40 worth the possibility of drama of crashing and burning? I guess, if you feel like living on the edge, don't let me stop you...


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Paul Provost
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 12:53:50 am

+1on the 7750
Be trying that out
Even BMD guys are saying the 120 is very long in the tooth

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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 5:38:08 am

What exactly is wrong with GT120? Had been using it for over two years with no issues whatsoever. Should I worry?


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Juan Salvo
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 6:55:17 am

Yeah, it's become the bottleneck in many installs. It's ancient, and slow. And there is now a bug with fcp7 and gt120 which causes constant dropped frames in OS 10.8+.

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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 7:02:28 pm

Juan.
I'm running 10.8.2 on Mac 4.1 with GT120 and GTX570 3GB. On FCP 7.0.3 I run Baselight Editions, Twixtor and even Neat Video among other with absolutely ZERO problems. Never EVER I had even one dropped frame. Your account of dropped frames as a result of simply use GT120 makes no sense, as FCP doesn't use ANY GPU acceleration. Of coarse your GT120 may have a problem, but it doesn't mean, that ALL GT120 do.
Sorry, but your "facts" are old wives' tale not based in fact.


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Juan Salvo
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 7:38:16 pm

My facts, are based on personal experience and convos with engineers at Apple. I'm glad the combo is working for you. I also use the gt120 for gui one of our boxes, but we've stopped using said box for FCP. It just wouldn't play through a sequence.

I wonder, do you do tape mastering from FCP? Do you have dropped frame warning on playback enabled?

I've seen it first hand where an fcp install on a box with gt120 gui wouldn't playback without dropping frames, switched out gpu, 0 dropped frames.

I'm well aware FCP doesn't use GPU computational acceleration. But it does use openGL and the graphics buffer to draw the frame on your screen, which is why fcp requires Quartz Extreme. So there is a reason for it. I'm sure a software fix could be implemented, but I wouldn't hold my breath for one, considering the card's age.

BTW, it's not just me:

http://www.erichansen.tv/2012/12/07/final-cut-pro-7-mac-os-x-10-7-5-and-nvi...

http://swainhart.org/2012/how-to-speed-up-final-cut-pro-with-a-new-graphics...

And of course there are plenty of people who can't figure out why their system is dropping frames, all of whom have the gt120, here is one such case. But these pop up all the time in the FCP forum.

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1133373

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Paul Jay
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 21, 2013 at 9:25:11 am

That dropping frames bug is absolutely not GT120 related.

It's blackmagic driver/10.8/ FCP7 related

Even with ATI 5770 / ATI 5870 cards this bug is there.

10.8 , Blackmagic 9.7 video driver and FCP7 is a no go on pretty much any system.

You get dropped frames with just a color bar in your sequence.

When you disable the audio playback, the dropped frames is gone.

We have reproduced this on many systems.

Blackmagic is aware but are not sure if they can fix it, as it's only a problem in FCP7.


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Paul Provost
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 21, 2013 at 2:40:05 pm

Bummer. I get dropped frames too with ati 5770 in fcp 7
Gotta test media express to confirm

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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 7:11:16 am

I've read of some tests where GT120 + a nice GPU is slower than just that same GPU alone (for Resolve performance).


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Simon Blackledge
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 10:40:23 am

Got a Mac Pro 3.1 running Resolve in a room with a GT120 and a GTX285

gfx card popped in a vfx macpro so popped the GT120 in to keep em going to replacement comes.

Resolve is now running better. Where I used to get 23/24 fps with DPX am getting 25 properly now.

Single 285.

Ordered a GTX670 FTW which will go in 3,1 then the vfx guy can have the 285.

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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 7:05:53 pm

I tried to remove GT120 and use just GTX 570 3GB. As a result Resolve's performance dropped down considerably in comparison to just a single GTX 570.


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Juan Salvo
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 8:01:42 pm

Did you enable "Use optimized display mode durring playback" as is recommended for single card configs?

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Laco Gaal
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 11:32:59 pm

I had problems with the GT120+DavinciV9+Prores: http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/277/22659

If I change anything (using davinciV9, or pulling out the GT120, or using any other file format), it works.


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:14:30 am

I have GT120 as a GUI and I do remote jobs every day with Alexa Prores with ZERO issues. Same goes for local grading.


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Alex Markman
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:20:17 am

Rub it in my face.
I'm getting 25fps for about a few min before it slows down to 12-18fps.
Is it a ram issue you think? Or does it really have to do with my gui, (which seems absurd).
Another thing I noticed, under my preferences where it lists the gpus, the 570 shows up as my gpu but the ati radeon does not show up as my gui. If I plug in my monitor to the 570 though, they both are listed under preferences. Does this perhaps have something to do with the issues i'm experiencing and that Jake is not experiencing.

alex m.


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:12:29 am

I always run Resolve with it enabled. I don't understand why this is not a default setting.


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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 16, 2013 at 9:01:18 pm

That's interesting. Many other people have had a different experience. I wonder what the difference is.
FCP 7 isn't officially supported on Mountain Lion, so it makes sense that there will be various issues, which Apple won't fix.
In any case, once BMD qualifies the 7750 and 10.8.3, that card will probably be much more powerful than the GT120 for other apps.


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Clark Bierbaum
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 1:42:48 am

I am thrilled that I upgraded to 2 gtx 580 classified ultra in a DIY cyclone expansion chassis for render. Put my 480 in for the GUI and did the After Effects and Premiere fix, WOW! GUI flys and AE renders are really speeded up, not to mention Resolve FLYS, makes a huge difference on 90 min shows with multiple nodes and NR at 1 or 2.

Anyone want my 120, will be ebaying soon, after this thread I'll get $10 and shipping!

By the way, the Cyclone folks are great, pre sale and post sale! Also nice you can buy the components. I had an old ATX case and a new power supply and only had to buy the back plane, interface card and cable.

MacVidCards was great as always.

Clark Bierbaum
Color Grading / Post Consultant
GarnetColor.com
Charlotte, NC


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:21:25 am

Of coarse it will run much faster:-) With GT120 as a GUI, when you use your computer with Premiere or AE or AVID MC, the application uses GT120 as a GPU renderer. If you use GTX 480 as a GUI, all those applications, that use GPU acceleration will benefit greatly. So, for example, when I have to use Smoke, I plug my GUI into the GTX570 and then that card is used for the GPU acceleration. No computer restart required. For Resolve use, i plug back into GT120. It's not GT120's fault, that you're not utilizing your GPUs correctly:-)


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:15:47 am

Agreed. That was the crux of my original post. Just wait a bit for MB to bless it:-)


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Alex Markman
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:24:11 am

Pretty sure it's a bug on BM's end. Bless them.

alex m.


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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 26, 2013 at 5:00:32 pm

Update: I tried adding the 7750, and I will be returning it to the store.
Compared to just my single GTX 570, I got between 1/2 and 1 fps improvement.

Elliott C. Balsley
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Philippe Kiener
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 3:04:18 pm

Before updating to 10.8.3 and the new CUDA driver, I had some choppy playback problem with my config:
GT120 and GTX570 export was fine but not real time playback.
Now with the update, I get full playback with that kind of nodes (just for testing):

out of my C300 file
which was never possible even with 2 or 3 simple node stuff before.

Greetings
Philippe


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Alex Markman
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 6:12:07 pm

I'm using resolve to transcode Ikonoskop cinemaDNGs to MXF DNxHD 1080p 36 8 bits at edit house request.
I was on 10.8.2, and stupidly updated to 10.8.3, and now I swear I'm running much slower. Anyone no any way to revert or what I'm possibly doing wrong? I don't have timemachine on. I'm running on average 10-18fps. I was getting realtime and faster (24fps and up) playback. I'm on a job currently, and this is screwing me, so any help asap would me very much appreciated.

Also, I noticed and not sure if it makes a difference, but under preferences it only displays my 570 as gpu. Says nothing about ati radeon as gui, but my mac recognizes it. To make it work, I'm running external power to it.

Latest CUDA update 5.0.45 (10.8.3) & GPU driver 304.10.65f03

GUI - ATI RADEON 5770 (2nd slot)
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 2560mb (1st slot)
Mac Pro 5,1
2x2.66GHz 6-Core Intel XEON
12GB 1333 MHz DDR3


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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 7:05:24 pm

Erase your system drive, re-install OS from the disc.
FWIW, I am getting identical performance after upgrading to 10.8.3 with a single GTX 570.


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Alex Markman
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 7:09:53 pm

Thanks, but I'm working remotely and don't have this option. You know how to revert. My only option is an internet connection solution...

alex m.


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Alex Markman
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 17, 2013 at 8:44:51 pm

Hey Elliot,

Think I figured out a solution (temporarily at least)

See link --
http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6083&p=38098&sid=e6b...

alex m.


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:24:10 am

Thank you, my point exactly! Wait for BM to bless the OS update. What's the rush?


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jake blackstone
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 18, 2013 at 3:25:59 am

Good to know. I will wait for BM blessing before I update. Also, I need to make sure it all works, before I give thumbs up to all my remote clients...


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Elliott Balsley
Re: Mac OS-X 10.8.3
on Mar 19, 2013 at 8:22:17 pm

Peter Chamberlain said they have not come across any problems yet with 10.8.3, so I updated (and CUDA 5.0.45). My Resolve performance seems unchanged, but I have been noticing weird problems in Safari and FIrefox. Sometimes choppy playback of Youtube videos, and sometimes horizontal tearing when scrolling quickly. But not always. Neither Nvidia nor Apple will help of course, since the GTX5xx series is not officially supported. Rats. This is life on the cutting edge.


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