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Robin Erard
Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 4:05:58 pm

And the made a 2.5k camera now ! for 2995 USD !

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Jamie Franklin
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 5:05:25 pm

...and it comes with Resolve and Ultrascopes.

very interesting.


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Joseph Owens
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 7:21:33 pm

Can I get it for less if I already own Resolve and don't need Ultrascope?

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Ola Haldor Voll
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 7:53:09 pm

One can only hope.. Hehe.. Or the sales rep would probably say "haven't you tried the remote grading feature yet? It's a must have. You're practically getting the camera for $999".


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Robert Houllahan
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 7:55:31 pm

I suspect that the Ultrascope software only works when the BMD Camera is plugged into the computer.

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Ryan Holmes
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 5:06:44 pm

This looks very interesting. The sample videos look pretty good too. Though ISO performance starts get noisy around 800, but for $3K you're not going to get the C300 sensitivity. There's a pretty detailed write up by John Brawley who got early access to the camera: http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/blackmagic-cinema-camera-lets-t...

I haven't seen a ship date for this yet. Anyone know? 2012? 2013?

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Tim Wilson
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 5:10:57 pm

July!

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Joseph Mastantuono
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 6:57:58 pm

This is the cheap camera that I've been dreaming about for years. There must be so many companies that are furious at BMD. GOOD RIDDANCE to H.264 acquisition.

Between Adobe CS6, Autodesk, RED, and Black-Magic design exploding the post world, what the hell is the post world going to look like in 3 years?

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Jose Lomeña
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 9:10:36 pm

I cant understand the sensor size... 15x8?

The video of the beach has a lot of dead pixels and noise. The camera will have a black shadding? I hate dead pixels!

I like 13 stops raw to ssd, but 15x8?, why not s35 sensor?


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Ryan Holmes
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 9:17:36 pm

I think there's a lot of sacrifices made in order to get it sub-$3K. No XLR input, no HDMI out, no buttons to adjust settings (all touch screen), no ND filter, etc.

It also doesn't seem like a very clean sensor at higher ISO's. The videos online have visible noise at ISO 800...by today's sensor standard that is pretty poor performance. But 2.5K resolution in RAW format with 13 stops of latitude for $3K may just be a great b-camera for a whole bunch of people (or maybe an A camera for some). I know I'm certainly interested...

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Margus Voll
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 9:27:51 pm

i really depends how you will use it. if you have all workflow in mind from raw to resolve you will be fine.
You can not cut corners on light anyway. i see here daily people use red or alexa and result is big pile of s... so it really depends who and how uses the camera.

i see it as fantastic alternative for canon and nikon cameras and even alexa.

price point will make sales explode!

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Rick Turners
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:27:30 pm

my prediction..

for web series and music videos this will become the go to camera.

It will also take a nice dent out of places trying to rent out scarlets.


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Chris Kenny
Re: Camera
on Apr 16, 2012 at 11:43:01 pm

[Margus Voll] "i really depends how you will use it. if you have all workflow in mind from raw to resolve you will be fine.
You can not cut corners on light anyway. i see here daily people use red or alexa and result is big pile of s... so it really depends who and how uses the camera."


Yeah, can this camera match an Epic at its best? Obviously not. But I see Epic-originated footage on a regular basis that looks worse than some of Blackmagic's sample footage. People have been saying for years now that talent trumps tech specs, but until recently it really was true that there were severe limitations to the sort of production values you could achieve with low-cost gear regardless of how talented you were. Those are mostly gone now. From what I've seen so far, this camera (and the raw workflow it enables with the bundled copy of Resolve) might be the final nail in the coffin.

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Sascha Haber
Re: Camera
on Apr 17, 2012 at 7:00:19 am

Yep , in the coffin of going home in time.
As soon as producers pushing forward to use this in full productions, you will spend your nights with noise reduction renderings ;)

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Margus Voll
Re: Camera
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:37:08 am

i get that now with red also so it really depends how good use they will give to camera.

it is more about the users not the camera today.

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Margus Voll
Re: Camera
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:46:35 am

and with D7 it is even worse, so we have to wait for the actual camera and see how it behaves
before any critics.

i will get my superb hobby camera to film my personal stuff uncompressed.
just was wondering if to get nikon d4 and bm recorder for that. now there is camera that has
both features in one body and one can use those on small tv spot stuff if needed.
beats canon any day. more stuff to make stabilizations etc on 2,5 k compared to hd h264.

by description and price point i see it as great product. still you have to have nice glass
and good light.

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