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Rob Grauert
Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 15, 2013 at 6:14:12 pm

I can't tell if this is real or if they faked it. The more I look at it, the more it seems faked. What do you guys think?







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Rich Rubasch
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 15, 2013 at 7:58:47 pm

Wasn't he in the recent GoDaddy spot doing the splits.

It's real.

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Bill Davis
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 16, 2013 at 10:08:57 pm
Last Edited By Bill Davis on Nov 16, 2013 at 10:15:08 pm

I'm not saying that the splits themselves aren't real. It's perfectly possible that JCVD can do that.

What has me puzzled is how they could find any insurance underwriter on the entire planet who would sign off on the stunt.

Remember, it's not just the steering smoothness for the two trucks (what they're promoting) , there's engine vibration, wind, rise and fall of the road surface (undulations) and a whole other host of physical forces in play

It also confuses me that the trucks are rolling in reverse. Presuming front wheel drive, that would make stearing exponentially more difficult, but maybe that's the point. Still, the geometry of starting, ramping away and then hitting a fixed cab to cab distance smoothly would be an unholy feat of driver coordination.

Maybe they shot it wide to tight then ran it backwards? Which would be more consisstent with JCVD's body position which seems to be leaning somewhat away from the air pressure direction in the shot.

Combine that with the shot complexity which would mean you'd have to do multiple takes for timing - all add up to pushing me to think that while aspects of it might be real - most of the shot is a sophisticated composite.

Just my guesses, tho.

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Rob Grauert
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 17, 2013 at 1:34:54 am

The split is definitely real. He does it in the movie Bloodsport, and I'm sure he's done it other times on camera as well.

But yea, I think it's just a very good composite, too.

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Rich Rubasch
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:20:43 am

Couldn't they have had safety gear under him and simply removed it in post? Plus drive the trucks forward then reverse the whole shot. Seems entirely possible. And if they sped it up a bit after reversing the shot they would not have been moving very fast to begin with.

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Mark Suszko
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 18, 2013 at 10:12:56 pm

Don't over-analyze it. The point is lost if it is faked, and even if they had put a net under/between and roto'ed it out, that doesn't take anything away from TMFB.

I tried to show some guys the Lexus quadcopters thing recently and they all swore blue it was all CGI fakery. Took me posting about 8 youtube videos of the technologies used, to convince them, and they're still not all sure about that one.


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adam taylor
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 19, 2013 at 12:25:35 pm

for me, the giveaway is the way both trucks bounce/vibrate in unison - noticeable mainly on van dammes close-up. I have never seen two vehicles, even that close, that move as if locked together. No road is that perfect.

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Rich Rubasch
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 19, 2013 at 4:02:55 pm

It's real...Van Damme himself said there were only safety wires and the trucks practiced for three days. I still think the trucks drove forward and the shot was reversed...but the stunt was real and captured in one fluid shot.

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Jessica-Faye Watters
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 20, 2013 at 8:42:29 am

I believe he was photo shopped onto a stunt double. I don't think I can reveal how I know due to legal issues, but I know a guy . . .
Regardless, the commercial is very well done and inspiring.


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Mark Suszko
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 22, 2013 at 3:22:18 pm

It's a meme-worthy spot


























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grinner hester
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 23, 2013 at 6:21:36 pm

best thread here since the ole Horror Stories thread LOL



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Richard Herd
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 25, 2013 at 5:24:40 pm

Whoa, grinner! Glad to read you post!


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Alberto Fontana
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 24, 2013 at 8:34:27 pm

The shot wasn't reversed. If you look at left Van Dammes' ankle at min 0:40 you can clearly see the pants over the shoe. At minute 0:42 the pants border come out of the shoe in a perfect natural way and stay on the ankle.

If the shot was reversed, how could the pants go on the shoe in that way?


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Conrad Olson
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Nov 27, 2013 at 10:49:46 pm

Here is a making of article:

http://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/behind-the-scenes-of-jcvds-epic-volvo-spl...

It's just rig-removal.

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Ben Mullins
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Dec 6, 2013 at 3:00:19 pm

Yeah I've read a couple of articles where Volvo claim the stunt is real and JCVD was attached to safety wires to ensure he wouldn't fall, with small platforms mounted on the two mirrors to assist with stability. The trucks going in reverse is (apparently) real too and designed (as Bill points out) to further showcase the Volvos smooth steering, due to the increased difficulty of reversing. The most impressive thing I read about it was that they only had a 15 minute window to shoot in as the sun was rising (or setting maybe, I can't remember which). Then the whole thing was done in one take. Even if they're not being entirely truthful about it's authenticity it's still an excellent piece of film, and a very good idea too. FWIW though Jackie Chan would have done this for real with no wires back in the day.



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Rob Grauert
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Dec 6, 2013 at 7:16:19 pm

[Ben Mullins] " Even if they're not being entirely truthful about it's authenticity it's still an excellent piece of film, and a very good idea too."

For sure. I think the concept is brilliant from a marketing/communication standpoint.

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Marian Muntean
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Dec 20, 2013 at 3:41:41 pm

Hi all!
A quick question here:
the sun is on right (JCVD side) and JCVD have no shaddow on his left side of face! Why? Do they have another car with a light setup maybe?
For me JCVD was shooted on green screen and then added on...but maybe I'm wrong! :)
Sorry for my english!


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Max Sainvil
Re: Volvo Van Damme Split - Fake or Real
on Jan 16, 2014 at 2:13:08 am

a few months ago i took a good look and due to the sun rays spilling in-between both trucks even though the sun is not directly behind him, and the fact the sunset exposure is so perfect while everything else is perfectly lit… it's hard for me to say it's real. There's a few other things…. but if it's real… they most of had the best camera, DP, Gaffer, Colorist ever in the whole universe.

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