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Scott Roberts
Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 3:16:49 pm

I saw the Wolfman over the weekend. Pretty disappointed. I was hoping for a lot more based on the trailer for it. The wolf attack scenes are decent, but short. But the scenes in between the cool stuff were horribly uninteresting. None of the characters were deep enough or likable enough to have any emotional connection with, and to be honest, the acting wasn't great (I know! Anthony Hopkins is in this! How did this happen!?).

The only redeeming factors were the overall atmosphere/look of it is pretty cool (very dark, very gothic), the Rick Baker make-up is good as always, and there are a few action scenes that are legitimately good. Overall though, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

If you're jonesin' for a werewolf fix, I'd say stick with An American Werewolf in London. Or even the 1940's Wolfman.


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Tim Wilson
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 6:27:16 pm

I'm sorry to hear this. I thought the commercials look dynamite, and the cast is about as good as it gets - two Oscar winners and a nominee at the top of the bill. It happens, though - the ingredients are fresh, but the souffle falls flat.

Vampires are obviously getting their due for reimagination, and some of the results are really compelling. While there has been a little flavor for werewolves sprinkled in, they have been minor elements at best. I was hoping that this would be their turn for something fresh.

Oh well.

That said, I absolutely love the BBC series "Being Human." In the US, you can find it on BBC America, and the first season at Netflix. On the surface, it sounds like a bad joke - a vampire, a werewolf, and a ghost have an apartment together in Bristol. (South of London, but still.) While there is indeed a chuckle or two along the way, it's actually a very powerful exploration of people coming to grips with their identities, and finding ways to take comfort even in the friction of trying to make their way together.

The special effects are definitely TV-grade, but focus on the character's humanity makes that okay. The show is a remarkable leap of imagination, and well worth checking out.

tw


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David Roth Weiss
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 6:46:42 pm

Gosh, that's too bad, I too was hoping for good things from this movie, though the February release date was a big red flag.

For those who don't know, it's typical that any studio expecting good things would not put their new movie up against all the potential oscar winners from the previous year who are garnering all the attention of the Hollywood press right now, just before the Oscars are handed out.

Thanks so much for saving me $60 Scott (i.e. the cost of taking a date to the movies is now literally about $60 with popcorn and drinks -- add dinner and you might as well buy her a house while you're at it.)

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Scott Roberts
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 9:54:50 pm

Yeah, I've noticed that February thing. I just hope that isn't the case with Shutter Island next week. I know that was supposed to come out end of last year, then got pushed to this month for some reason. It looks awesome, so I really, really hope it was pushed back for re-shoots or something, and not because it's actually terrible.

And I take my girlfriend to matinee shows ($6.75 before 2 pm) and we refuse to buy food at the theater, and eat cheap fast food lunch afterwards. The whole experience is less than $20! Hey, I never said we were a classy couple, hahaha...


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Scott Roberts
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 9:50:32 pm

Yeah I think it was doomed not to be fresh from the get-go, because it was struggling all the way through the film trying to decide whether it wanted to be more like the classic Universal monster movies, or more like an action driven "comic-book" style movie (and from what I read recently the guy who directed Wolfman is also about to direct the new Captain America movie coming out next year, so I see why that happened).

I need to check that Being Human show out, it sounds quirky and interesting, right up my alley for a TV show. I've got about a dozen episodes left of the Green Hornet to watch, then I'm wide open for something new.


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Ron Lindeboom
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 7:53:05 pm

[Scott Roberts] "If you're jonesin' for a werewolf fix, I'd say stick with An American Werewolf in London. Or even the 1940's Wolfman."


Or go listen to some Warren Zevon -- and use your imagination to fill in your own visuals.

;)

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Scott Roberts
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 9:56:54 pm

Haha, that's why I titled the thread that, I swear to god, at one point in the theater when I was bored and spacing out at some long drawn out terrible dialog scene, I started to think about what the movie would be like if that song was playing in the background. It made me chuckle good.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 10:08:58 pm

Not that I would ever see this movie in the theater, I was looking forward to the DVD. Based upon the box office of most movies, the DVD will be released within a couple of months.

We might have another Ang Lee Hulk on our hands - talented filmmakers and actors turning out unwatchable drivel. I wonder what the missing piece of the puzzle is on movies like this?

Regarding the expense of going to the movies, may I suggest investing in a jacket with large inside pockets. My wife and I, when we do go to the movies, can fit a couple of subs and cans of soda in our pockets.

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Jason Jenkins
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 15, 2010 at 11:14:50 pm

[Mike Cohen] "Regarding the expense of going to the movies, may I suggest investing in a jacket with large inside pockets. My wife and I, when we do go to the movies, can fit a couple of subs and cans of soda in our pockets."

That's classic! My brother managed to get in with an entire large pizza held under his jacket.

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Tim Wilson
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 16, 2010 at 1:32:36 am

[Scott Jenkins] "I just hope that isn't the case with Shutter Island next week."

I read the book, and really loved it. Total mindblower. The author Dennis Lehane, also wrote "Mystic River," a wonderful series featuring detectives Kenzie and Genarro (including "Gone, Baby, Gone"), and a whole bunch of other wonderful books set in the Boston area. (I used to be able to see Shutter Island from my window.)

(He also wrote 3 episodes of The Wire, but that's another story.)

I didn't care for either of the movies based on those books, and hope that Lehane doesn't fall under The Curse of Elmore Leonard - terrific writer, stuck with terrible movies for decades. before a nice little run of Get Shorty, Jackie Brown (based on Rum Punch) and Out of Sight in '90, '92, and '96.

On one hand, Sonnenfeld, Tarantino, and Soderbergh were a big part of those successes...on the other, it's not like Eastwood was a schlub. I'm pulling for Marty, though. I'd love for Shutter Island to be good.




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Tim Wilson
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 16, 2010 at 11:11:21 am

From The Hollywood Reporter this morning:

Bottom Line: A movie from Martin Scorsese that defies you to believe in what you actually see.

BERLIN -- Martin Scorsese's "Shutter Island" is a remarkable high-wire act, performed without a net and exploiting all the accumulated skills of a consummate artist. It dazzles and provokes. But since when did Scorsese become a circus performer?

The movie certainly keeps you in its grip from the opening scene: It's a nerve-twisting, tension-jammed exercise in pure paranoia and possibly Scorsese's most commercial film yet. With a top cast hitting their marks with smooth efficiency, "Island" looks like a boxoffice winner. Paramount opens the film domestically Friday Feb. 19.


The reviewer ultimately whined about how commercial the picture is, but I don't see that as a problem. "Commercial" implies "wanting lots of people to like it," which is fine by me.


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Scott Roberts
Re: Werewolves of London
on Feb 16, 2010 at 3:46:36 pm

This is good news! I'll watch a Scrosese circus! I'm happy that it wasn't pushed back because the studio knew it secretly sucked or something. And according to Wikipedia: "Reports attribute the pushback to Paramount not having "the financing in 2009 to spend the $50 to $60 million necessary to market a big awards pic like this", to DiCaprio's unavailability to promote the film internationally, and to Paramount's hope that the economy might rebound enough by February 2010 that a film geared toward adult audiences would be more viable financially."

And yeah I have no problem with Scorsese making commercial films, in fact he's been doing it for a while now. It's not as if Scorsese of the 2000's has been working down low making this generation's "Mean Streets". Shutter Island may end up being commercial, but I find it hard to believe that a R-rated head trip about an insane asylum is going to be more commercial than The Aviator or The Departed. I mean, my parents liked the Aviator, I don't see them even attempting to see Shutter Island.


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Tim Wilson
Re: Werewolves of London...and Shutter Island and Scorcese
on Feb 16, 2010 at 6:04:28 pm

[Scott Roberts] "I have no problem with Scorsese making commercial films, in fact he's been doing it for a while now."

I agree! I thought that the reviewer was full of poo. "I much preferred Scorcese before YOU liked him too. Now, it's just not as much fun to be a fan. Too many other people are." Morons. Marty loves movies. He knows that he makes R-rated movies that aren't for everyone, but the notion that he makes them for just a few people is plain ridiculous. He makes them to be seen.

Now that I think about it, here's a list of his other "commercial" movies, more or less in order:
  • The Last Waltz (A concert movie! Joni Mitchell, Neil Diamond, Neil Young...)
  • After Hours (A comedy with Rosanna Arquette and Cheech and Chong!)
  • The Color of Money (Tom Cruise, released by Disney)
  • The Age of Innocence (A period romance!)
  • The video for Michael Jackson's "Bad"
  • No Direction Home, the Bob Dylan bio for PBS (phenomenal)
  • Shine a Light - concert with the Rolling Stones


Looking at IMDb, his George Harrison documentary is in post, with a Sinatra biopic announced for 2011.

There are others like Goodfellas and Casino that have found a great life on cable, and while I wouldn't call Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore "commercial," it was certainly accessible. Of course, the one after that was Taxi Driver - neither commercial nor accessible, but still amazing.

Whew! I feel much better having gotten that off my chest. People get so wrapped up in myths that they kind of miss the truth. Kind of like the idea that even Jim Cameron has of himself - he's not a plucky underdog outsider. Critics like his movies too....but that's a whole other rant. :-)

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Scott Roberts
Re: Werewolves of London...and Shutter Island and Scorcese
on Feb 16, 2010 at 8:58:07 pm

Don't forget Gangs of New York, that was a huge budget, blockbuster-type film.

But for someone to not like Scorsese anymore because he's too popular now... Well, he probably didn't like Scorsese all that much to begin with then, he just wanted to seem cool for being a "fan" of an interesting filmmaker. It's kind of like these guys I see at parties from time to time that try to impress people with a knowledge of little-known bands, then I start to go in-depth on some of the bands he's talking about, and he doesn't really know anything about them, he just wanted to look cool on the surface. I always try and do this with as many attractive women around as possible to make him look bad, haha.

I'd almost say that Scorsese has been a commercial director for MOST of his career. He's always had an edge to his work, but not since the mid-70s has be been considered some sort of hidden underground entity.

And James Cameron was somehow able to avoid being labeled a mainstream director after the first time he had the highest grossing movie of all time. Now he's done it again, and I think people need to stop making him out to be "against the system".


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