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Mark Suszko
Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 4, 2012 at 6:22:45 pm

Avengers, 3-D tonight, 7:40. Over 2 hours run time; better not buy the BIG soda.....


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Scott Roberts
Re: Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 4, 2012 at 6:33:59 pm

Definitely getting a head start on me, I actually won't have time to see it until Sunday afternoon! I look forward to hopefully not discussing next week how disappointing it was... because I'm excited! HULK SMASH

I like getting the big blue ICEE at the theater, it doesn't activate my bladder as much as soda does.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 4, 2012 at 6:44:41 pm

Since someone mentioned a function of the human digestive/urological system, I feel obligated to chime in.

I forgo beverages during long movies as I would rather not leave the theater for any reason during a movie. Perhaps if it is a Blade sequel, but otherwise I'm sitting still.

The movie looks like a lot of fun.

MC


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Mark Suszko
Re: Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 4, 2012 at 8:57:32 pm

2:20 is a lot of time to hide a cameo of Stan Lee in:-)

Probably won't have time to talk about it much until perhaps Saturday night.


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Mark Suszko
Re: Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 5, 2012 at 3:49:10 am

I confirm it is totally worth the wait in line. Wheedon nailed it. He even managed to make Hawkeye look badass. I was worried I wouldn't like Hulk, but he was awesome and VERY funny.

The real3d projection here was notably dim. Some of the 3d compositing looked a little "viewmaster-y" for me. I would say save the extra bucks and see it in 2-d. Or 1-d, if you're Nick Fury... Movie moves right along, you don't mind the run time... and do stay after all the credits. I want to wait for the critiques and spoilers for a week or so.


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Jason Jenkins
Re: Will I finally see a movie before Scott Roberts does?
on May 5, 2012 at 4:45:48 am

[Mark Suszko] "Or 1-d, if you're Nick Fury"

Ha!

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Scott Roberts
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 7, 2012 at 3:24:33 pm

Wow... Avengers was awesome! The action was incredible, the comedy was hilarious, the characters were done justice... it was about as good a movie as anyone could have made with what was asked of them.

It's funny because I like to think about how big of a disaster The Avengers *could* have been. In fact, it's crazy that the four individual superheroes all had good movies leading up into this one. With the exception of maybe Iron Man 2 (I mean, it wasn't bad), the Marvel franchise has had an incredible run. And just think of what could have been added to The Avengers if they had the film rights to include Spider-Man as another member of the team (as he is in the comics)!

I was very impressed with the Hulk in this, as well. I think this film showed that Hulk is awesome as a side character, when his whole purpose is to just smash stuff. I'm not sure if he's a compelling enough character to carry an entire film by himself (a bad Eric Bana film, and a slightly above average Edward Norton film would prove that point). But I was impressed that Hulk ended up being the strongest comedy force in The Avengers, a title I thought would have gone to Tony Stark. Side note: I thought Mark Ruffalo did the best job as Bruce Banner of the three modern actors to play the character.

The 3D? Totally not worth it. Save your money (as usual). Maybe one or two shots of interesting 3D isn't worth the extra ticket price and dimmer visuals.

There are TWO credits/after the credits scenes, make sure to stay until the VERY END of the credits, it's worth it!

Overall, I was super happy when I left the theater. It's kind of slow in the first act, but it's still entertaining to see the characters slowly assemble. I'd give the whole thing a 9 out of 10. It's the best movie of the year so far. And that bids well for 2012 as one of the best years in film in a long time, because I'm even *more* excited for the big films that are still left in the year:

Dark Knight Rises (obviously)

Moonrise Kingdom (new Wes Anderson movie [drools])

Brave (Pixar usually doesn't do wrong)

Prometheus (obviously)

The Master (new Paul Thomas Anderson movie [drools even more])

Looper (check out the trailer, try to not get excited)

Django Unchained (new Tarantino movie [getting a bucket for my drool])

The Hobbit (obviously, at any frame rate)


2011 had three films that I would consider above just "good", and into amazing territory (50/50, Drive, The Muppets). We're only in the beginning of May, and I've already got two amazing films in 2012: Hunger Games and Avengers.


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Tim Wilson
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 7, 2012 at 3:30:04 pm

[Scott Roberts] " I'm even *more* excited for the big films that are still left in the year:"

I wouldn't say *more* excited, but the closer we get to MiB III, the happier I am. I frankly wouldn't have guessed it. If you'd told me no more Men In Black ever, I'd be okay with it...but what can I say? This looks funny to me, and the creatures look great.

Avengers tomorrow!

Tim Wilson
Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou



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Scott Roberts
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 7, 2012 at 3:56:09 pm

[Tim Wilson] "I wouldn't say *more* excited, but the closer we get to MiB III, the happier I am."

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I loved the first one, and hated the second one. So I'm conflicted. But I'll see MiB3 and judge it on it's own merits. Though, Will Smith saying "shiznit" in the trailer seems like a regrettable time travel to 1999...


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Tim Wilson
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 7, 2012 at 4:07:46 pm

[Scott Roberts] "Though, Will Smith saying "shiznit" in the trailer seems like a regrettable time travel to 1999..."

I was pretty sure that "shiznit" entered the common parlance earlier than that, and because I'm JUST THAT WAY, I looked it up: yep, track 4 on the classy Doggystyle, from the artist then known as Snoop Doggy Dogg...in 1993.

I have no doubt that people were using it plenty before then too, but a #1 album that sold 4 million copies its first year -- that's what I mean by "the popular parlance."

So yeah, if you're going to time travel from 2012 to 1969, no need to detour through Yo! MTV Raps! -- although I guess if Will Smith is going to stop somewhere in his time travels, that might do. Here was his and the top-billed Jazzy Jeff's first hit:



Did I mention Avengers tomorrow?

Tim Wilson
Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou



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Jeff Breuer
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 7, 2012 at 4:08:51 pm

Had to stay up past midnight last night to watch Avengers but I did it. I feel really old thinking of that as a challenge now. They did a terrific job pacing out the action and keeping the dialogue fresh and witty. In particular they played out each of the characters and their respective egos well, and the struggle to work together.

In addition, the epic end fight scene is one of the best in memory. I agree they did good with Hawkeye, but for me, Iron Man calling him Legolas was priceless. My one concern is that I heard Weaton won't be back for part two. That would be a shame.


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Mark Suszko
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 8, 2012 at 4:15:20 pm

The first one is the hardest: now follow-on films have a template to follow, more or less. They tip what the next one is about in the ending credits (Skrulls). Your format and characters and settings are already established. The trick will be to balance the screen time, move the arc along, and throw in a few unexpected twists and fan service along the way.


I found Stark/Iron Man's characterization a little abbreviated in the overall context, but you have to accept some of that or the movie would be six hours long. And what's wrong with that, BTW?:-)


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Scott Roberts
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 8, 2012 at 6:15:30 pm

I would have enjoyed a longer Avengers for sure.

BUT I DIGRESS, I just saw this image in the glorious world of the internet. It's all the Avengers actors in high school.

Behold and appreciate Hawkeye's flat-top mullet.


<a href="http://images.creativecow.net/150514/avengershighschool.jpg"><img src="//i1.creativecow.net/u/150514/avengershighschool.jpg" border="0" /></a>


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Tim Wilson
Re: I've now seen The Avengers!
on May 9, 2012 at 12:07:21 am

Usually I'm the naysayer about the general 3D naysaying around here, but yeah, the 3D was pretty weak. I still recommend the 3D, but it ain't all that.

Speaking of which, I didn't think the movie was all that. I HATE that all superhero movies are too damn long. Most are 30, if not 40 minutes too long. At least this was only 20 minutes too long.

But I did dig The Hulk, though. I can only pray that Ruffalo gets his own Hulk movie, and that it won't be an origin story. I HATE ORIGIN STORIES.

Scarlett was awesome. One of my favorite sequences in the movie was her fighting while she was tied to the chair. Awesome.

Best line: "You and I remember Budapest much differently."

There's a lot of other stuff to like (short version: blowing shit up + quips a'plenty) and I'm really glad I went. Bottom line, depending on how you're scoring: firmly Fresh, big Thumbs Up(tm), B+.

Next stop: MiB III, fo shizzle, shizznit notwithstanding.

Tim Wilson
Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou



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Tim Wilson
52% saw it in 3D
on May 13, 2012 at 11:32:29 pm

A note in my ongoing, "Not A Fad, Not Fading Chronicles," 52% of people saw "Marvel's The Avengers" in 3D. Note the name of the movie, btw: you'll need to look for it under M in any accurate alphabetical listing.

I'm just saying.

Tim Wilson
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Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou



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Mark Suszko
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on May 13, 2012 at 11:37:37 pm

The movie's box office crossed the billion-dollar mark this weekend.

If I went to see it again, I would watch in 2D. Avengers was my first experience of 3-d where the projection power was too weak and made things seem dim.


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Tim Wilson
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on May 14, 2012 at 12:20:51 am

[Mark Suszko] "If I went to see it again, I would watch in 2D. Avengers was my first experience of 3-d where the projection power was too weak and made things seem dim."

I dig that. I consistently find Real-D short for "real disappointment." Consistently too dim. I find the light in most IMAX presentations to work for me though, and if you have a Cinemark theater near you, look for the xD showings. Those things rock - exactly how 3D should be presented.

That said, I'll be interested to hear about your experience in 2D. The article by Ty Burr in the Boston Globe that set a lot of this conversation off was about 2D -- 8 of the 19 screens in the AMC Boston Common were just plain too dark.

(I LOVE that theater by the way. I went there 2-3 times/week for years. Top 10 worldwide moviegoing experiences for me, easy, and I've seen a ton of movies all over the world.)

Ebert was also talking about 2D movies, and when the guys at the Alamo Drafthouse talked about the decline of the professional projectionist -- 2D. I'd say well less than half of the 2D movies I go to are projected right.....so let us know....

Tim Wilson
Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW Magazine
Twitter: timdoubleyou



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Jeff Breuer
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on May 14, 2012 at 3:34:13 pm

On a side note, I went to a baseball game over the weekend and saw a teenage girl walking around with Real 3D glasses on and the lenses punched out. Is this the new fashion statement? Ugh...

Your world is already in 3D chica...


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Stephen Smith
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on Jun 27, 2012 at 3:25:02 pm

I finally got to see the Avengers and I was surprised that the theater was full on a Saturday afternoon. I of course had bad luck and had the 8-year old kid behind me who kept asking his Dad who was who...I wanted to yell Kid, if you can't figure out who the bad guy is you shouldn't be here. And then the guy dead center 3 rows in front of me had Tourette Syndrome or something. He kept raising his right hand into the air like he was at a rock concert for the whole movie. You can't blame the guy, but you can blame his parents who where with him...they couldn't have sat on the far right of the theater or in the back? So the how movie I saw a fist pop in and out of my vision. It appears I really get distracted easily. Wow, what was that a squirrel? Anyways, if I liked the movie with all of that going on I think it was a great film.

There where two parts that I found odd and ironically enough the "How It Should Have Ended" gang felt the same way. This is really funny.

http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/videos

Did I hear a rumor that they are going to re-realse the film with extra scenes?

Stephen Smith
Utah Video Productions

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Mike Cohen
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on Oct 24, 2012 at 4:07:52 am

Over the weekend I rented the DVD, watched the movie and a 2nd time with the commentary, and here are some additional thoughts:

- The IronMan vs Thor scene seemed unnecessary. Tony should have been told by Agent Colson that Thor was a good guy, so why duke it out with him. Whedon's commentary said that the storyboard artists had been wanting to do such a sequence since Iron Man I and he seemed pretty excited about it.

- I thought the Hulk was very well done especially the comedic scenes. My wife thought he looked stupid and my kitten Alfie was freaked out by the Hulk's screaming.

- I realize the portal was at the top of Stark Tower/Pan Am building, and the chariots and leviathans were appearing over Grand Central, but with all the racing around, up and down Park Avenue, the action always wound up right on the viaduct. And neither the Chrysler nor Empire State Buildings were damaged.

- Odd that there were no scrambled fighter jets over New York. A squadron of F16's could have fired some missiles or something. In the commentary Whedon mentions that they did not get the US military's participation. The carrier deck was build in the Arizona desert and they only had 2 life sized planes, one of which was the True Lies Harrier.

- The portal thingy was protected by a force field. But it was attached to a laptop. Why not fire a missile at that?

Ok gotta go to bed. More later

Mike


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Mark Suszko
Re: 52% saw it in 3D
on Oct 24, 2012 at 4:25:37 am

Iron Man and Thor sparring was fan service: these two have an unlikely friendship and chemistry or "bromance" over a long section of the comic, and the movie needed to introduce them to each other quickly. Stark is fascinated by Thor's magic, i.e. tech so far above his it appears magical. Stark also has a tropism for things related to King Arthur and knights errant.


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