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Scott Roberts
Golden Globes
on Jan 16, 2012 at 4:16:50 pm

I watched the Golden Globes last night in the background while I alphabetized my DVDs, and I've got to say, it was a really boring broadcast. And most of the awards were extremely predictable. I don't mind (film) award shows usually, but this must have been the perfect example of why a lot of people hate these shows.

As for the awards, I wasn't that upset with any of the winners. Probably because the Golden Globes are somewhat of a joke to me. But here's some of my thoughts anyway:

-The Descendants and The Artist won the Best Picture awards (for Drama and Comedy, respectively). I was happy with those winning, and would be happy with either of them taking home Best Picture at the Oscars as well (but I would lean more towards the Artist, as it was more enjoyable on more levels).

-I'm happy Hugo didn't win Best Picture, as I thought it was overrated and mediocre, but I'm satisfied with Scorsese winning Best Director. I can't deny that he directed the hell out of that movie.

-Meryl Streep winning Best Actress for The Iron Lady was probably my biggest eye roll of the night. Though, I'm not surprised it happened at all. But based on the trailer and word of mouth, it looks like an awful, awful movie. And her performance looks like the most awards baity performance since Morgan Freeman in Invictus.

-Michele Williams winning for Best Actress in a Comedy for My Week With Marilyn. I guess? I haven't seen it yet, but I get the hint that it's not really a comedy. Poor Kristen Wiig, I thought you might actually win for Bridesmaids... Probably bad karma for being unwatchable all season on SNL.

-Octavia Spencer won Best Supporting Actress for The Help. Totally agree, and thought she was the best part about The Help.

-Woody Allen won Best Screenplay for Midnight in Paris. I agree with this at the Globes, but it only saddens me because it will probably win Best Original Screenplay at the Academy Awards and I would rather have that go to 50/50.

-Adventures of Tintin won Best Animated Feature... Bleeeeehhhhhhh. Over Rango? Get outta here... I assume this is because a foreign committee voted on this, as no one in America actually liked Tintin.

-Madonna won Best Song (it sounded horrible in the 15 second clip they played, btw). Immediately irrelevant because they didn't nominate any songs from The Muppets.



As for the TV side of the Awards...

-I'm cool with Homeland winning a bunch of awards (including Best Drama), I'm currently going through it (I'm on episode 5), and it's really good.

-Kelsey Grammer won Best Actor for Boss. I have all the episodes of Boss stockpiled, but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. THAT BEING SAID, no matter how good Kelsey Grammer was, I guarantee he wasn't as good as Bryan Cranston in season 4 of Breaking Bad. No way.

-Modern Family won Best Comedy. Another eye roll from me. Look at this category for Best Comedy:

Modern Family
Glee
Episodes
Enlightened
New Girl

Yikes... At least Big Bang Theory wasn't nominated. And I understand a lot of people enjoy Modern Family, but it's basically "Arrested Development lite". It's basically king of the play-it-safe network comedies. If you think it's pretty risque and not play-it-safe, I assume you haven't seen Louie or Always Sunny or Community or a bunch of other comedy shows that actually have balls.

-Laura Dern won Best Actress for Enlightened. I couldn't get through two episodes of that show. Snub for Amy Poehler.

-Peter Dinklage won again for Game of Thrones. 1000% agree.

-Downton Abbey won best mini-series and Kate Winslet won for Mildred Pierce. SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE. I have never, and will never, watch either of those boring looking things.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 16, 2012 at 7:36:10 pm

I set my DVR yesterday AM for the Golden Globes (they should call the show "On Golden Pond Awards" because it is the same boring format as it was in 1980, or 1890 for that matter.

I watched last week's Family Guy and went to watch this week's Family Guy but it was actually Napoleon Dynamite the cartoon...really?! That movie was like 5 years ago. Looks like King of the Hill.

Anyway, once the DVR had some buffer time, enough to forward through commercials and boring speeches, I let it rip.

Ricky Gervais really toned things down this year in his opening monologue. I'm sure lawyers were involved because he was pretty tame and not that funny. Now he has become a cliche (watch out Branjelina, Ricky is going to say something off color about you) and is really not shocking anymore.

As for the awards, I agree with a lot of what Scott said.

I have not seen any of the Animated nominees - I knew Tin Tin would win because Spielberg gets what he wants, and because Tin Tin is popular overseas. ($346 million world-wide, only $64 million in USA).

I have not seen many of the nominated films overall, so I fast forwarded through many of the categories. I was happy to see Scorsese win again, and I finally can tell the difference between Meryl Streep and Glenn Close - I seriously thought they were the same person!

I do not watch any comedy on television - I personally think the laugh-track sitcom has run its course.

Happy about Homeland / Claire Danes (she played a good slightly crazy person) and about Jessica Lange (a good very crazy person) for American Horror Story (if you have not seen this series put it on your queue today - it is weird and fun - I don't know how they will top it next season) and Peter Dinklage who is very humble - something more actors should learn.

The tribute to Morgan Freeman was nice, although I'm not sure why Helen Mirren did the presenting - she seemed a bit tipsy. Sidney Poitier is dignified and standing tall although he is looking old.

But....yawn...an overall boring 3 hours of television, even in fast forward.

What's next, DGA awards? Think I just read Scott's recap and stock up on 5-hour energy drinks for the Oscars.

Mike

PS - I would love to see an unconventional awards show, but these tv traditions are too locked into the same thing every year. Only problem with this approach is it reflects the problem with the movie industry in general - too much of the same thing.


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Tim Wilson
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 16, 2012 at 10:47:10 pm

>>My main beef with Ricky is that there was so little of him. I'm not surprised he came in a little softer...although it really was only a little...but dang! Where the hell was he for most of the show?

>>Helen presented Morgan with the award because she and Morgan are good friends, they were both SMOKING hot in Red...and well, if you're the HFP, you're looking for an excuse to get Helen in front of a microphone, and she'll take one. (I mean that in a good way. Huge fan.)

>>I don't have a problem with Modern Family winning. They're no longer nailing every single week, but they used to, and like an A student who turns in a couple of B papers...they get rounded up to A- based on past performance.

But it's the HFP!!! Look at the sitcoms those people grew up on. I know that this isn't the right category, but since Benny Hill was ineligible, we're lucky they didn't give the DeMille Award to Larry The Cable Guy.

>>Best show on in the past year: Homeland, by a mile. Claire Danes deserved the award, not just for playing crazy, but for how well she played trying to keep it under control.

Scott, you're in for a treat. The shows just keep getting better. I've saved the last two eps on my DVR so that I can keep watching them over and over. They couldn't be more different in how they build tension, but it was almost unbearable.

>>This show was a little droopy (other, apparently, than Seth Rogen), but the People's Choice Awards? I watched those too, and, yikes....although they gave Nathan Fillion an award, so it wasn't ALL bad....


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Scott Roberts
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 17, 2012 at 3:31:25 pm

[Tim Wilson] ">>My main beef with Ricky is that there was so little of him. I'm not surprised he came in a little softer...although it really was only a little...but dang! Where the hell was he for most of the show?"

I thought he was an adequate awards show host. I think he disappeared because they were running over on time. I started to notice as the show went on, the celebrities started telling less and less jokes or build up before they announced the nominees. I think they were just fighting the clock, that's why Ricky was absent for long periods of time. Just my guess.

But last year he was jarring in his hilarious meanness, and this year he basically did the job that anyone else would have done. I liked The Tourist followup joke with Johnny Depp. But the biggest laugh from me came from George Clooney talking about Michael Fassbender's "golf club" during his acceptance speech.

On a related note (to hosting, not Fassbender's junk), maybe it's because I'm not from the generation who really appreciated him, but I'm not at all excited about Billy Crystal hosting the Oscars. I just don't find him all that funny. He's got that sort of generic, lame, Jay Leno-type humor that wouldn't offend my Grandma. And it drives me crazy.




[Tim Wilson] "but the People's Choice Awards? I watched those too, and, yikes....although they gave Nathan Fillion an award, so it wasn't ALL bad...."

I don't think I could put myself through the torture of watching that awards show. I looked over the winners the day after it happened, and "The People" had voted Adam Sandler the Best Comedian of 2011... "The People" tend to be pretty dumb.


[Mike Cohen] "Meryl Streep and Glenn Close - I seriously thought they were the same person!"

I've always hated Glenn Close. I saw that trailer for Albert Nobbs before The Artist,, and it looked so dry that my eyes almost turned to sand. MERYL 4 LIFE (I'm flashing "M" gang signs now)


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Mike Cohen
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 17, 2012 at 5:04:28 pm

Here's my idea for an awards show:

People like seeing people like Spielberg, Harrison Ford, Jodie Foster, etc present the big awards of the night because we love their work, we don't necessarily love seeing them read fluff from a teleprompter.

I say for each category, do a miniature set recreation, even using virtual sets, of our favorite movie scenes, and have the actors do what they do best....act!

So Harrison Ford puts on his Indiana Jones costume and does a little scene from Raiders, then faces the audience and presents the nominees and the hands out the statue. The audience would love it, the actors would not seem so out of their element, and the viewers might actually watch the whole show.
Same goes for the Emmy awards - I'd do the whole broadcast from the Happy Days set.

My two cents.

Mike


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Scott Roberts
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 18, 2012 at 5:34:28 pm

This is actually a pretty brilliant idea, especially if it wasn't just a segment or two, but expanded over the entire 3 hour show. The only issue I see with it is that most celebrities probably think these awards shows are their "time to relax" or to not work and just receive praise or something. It would be really cool though. If Wes Anderson can shoot credit card commercials, I don't see why these other guys can't participate in something like this.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:16:03 pm

[Scott Roberts] "The only issue I see with it is that most celebrities probably think these awards shows are their "time to relax" or to not work and just receive praise or something"

Actually sitting at home behind iron gates watching their 104" LED television and being waited on by their staff is the time for celebs to relax. Going to an awards show is work, even if just to keep up public appearances for their fan base who will be tuning in. They would not wear custom gowns and jewelry if they were out for a free party. They are working to sell their personas. Even Elton John who normally shuns awards shows was there since he was nominated.

Collecting an award may be an act of acknowledging praise by your peers or by critics, but it too is part of the job much like doing press junkets. Look at a guy like Harrison Ford. The guy could keep making Cowboys and Aliens sequels for the rest of his life and collecting his big paychecks, or he could not work at all. But he has like 4 ex-wives and many children, and airplanes and a ranch in Wyoming so he could use the extra coin. So he does the junkets and hands out awards and attends events with his younger wife in tow and he collects his $30 million checks, and he is often kind of grumpy when interviewed but he does it because it's his job.

I liked Ricky's comment at the end - "enjoy your goodie bags and try to forget about the recession for one night."

M


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Scott Roberts
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 18, 2012 at 10:56:09 pm

Yeah, i guess I didn't really think about it that way. I suppose it then becomes a problem of booking A-list celebrities in advance to film little segments before an awards show. Cost/time are the new issues. I imagine the people presenting the awards currently don't even know what they are presenting until 10 minutes before they go on stage (unless it's like a Ben Stiller-esk pre-planned gag or something, obviously).


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Jeff Breuer
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:50:33 pm

[Scott Roberts] "Meryl Streep winning Best Actress for The Iron Lady was probably my biggest eye roll of the night."

Thank God I'm not the only one. Streep has a long line of great acting gigs but I just can't take it any more. She annoys the hell out of me and it doesn't seem to matter who she pretends to be.



[Scott Roberts] " Immediately irrelevant because they didn't nominate any songs from The Muppets."

YES!!! I was in pain when I found out not one Muppet song was nominated. A huge disgrace. Should have boycotted the Globes this year. So I suppose Madonna winning should not have been a big surprise. And what a great surprise, she basically told us she gave it no real thought or effort and just ripped a song out of her new record to throw on at the end of the movie. CAN WE PLEASE CANCEL MADONNA FOR THE SUPER BOWL HALF TIME SHOW AND HIRE THE MUPPETS!?!?!?!



[Scott Roberts] "Downton Abbey won best mini-series and Kate Winslet won for Mildred Pierce. SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE."

I don't watch the show, but my wife is head over heals in love Downton Abbey. I guess you have to be the right demographic.


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Scott Roberts
Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 18, 2012 at 11:00:15 pm

[Jeff Breuer] "CAN WE PLEASE CANCEL MADONNA FOR THE SUPER BOWL HALF TIME SHOW AND HIRE THE MUPPETS!?!?!?!"

this is the best idea EVER. Maybe if they do this we won't change the channel to the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet at halftime like we have the last three years. If you think I'm lame for saying that, then obviously you have never watched puppies on television while drinking.

Then again, I would rather stare blankly at a brick wall for 20 minutes than sit through a Black Eyed Peas halftime show.


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Tim Wilson
Halftime, was Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 19, 2012 at 6:08:50 am

[Scott Roberts] " change the channel to the Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet at halftime like we have the last three years."

Remember when Beavis and Butthead had an alternative halftime show? Or was it The Simpsons? Or did they both? Anyway...

If you've skipped the past three years, you're at least 2 for 3. I really had some hope for the Peas, if only because they're high energy. Certainly not enough energy to fill the Super Bowl. There's one.

You'd think The Who could have...but no. I adore The Who, and my wife even more so, but it was sad how out of breath Roger sounded. There's two.

On the other hand, Bruce Springsteen did a really stellar show, especially the opening. It's almost exactly the set list I'd have chosen, and performed with virtually no folderol.

There was a time when I was nuts for Madonna. I'd have bet a real pony that she was going to be a pop artist for the ages, truly in the pop pantheon. I still have a bunch of her music, and it would be great for her to throw down again...but I ain't bettin' any ponies on it, that's for sure.

I get why they asked the Peas to do it, though. There has been some thought for a while that it would be interesting to get somebody who appeals to roughly the same demographic as the players -- ie, people in their 20s to early/mid 30s. That's a pretty wide swath...and it's been a long, long time since they've tried it.

Prince was close, and certainly put on quite a show, but otherwise, you have to go back to Janet Jackson (oops), Justin Timberlake, Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock in 2004. Did you remember it was all of them on the same show? Or that Nelly had been on the bill three years earlier?

That 2001 show included Britney and 'N Sync singing with Aerosmith (Adam Sandler was on the bill too! You kidding me?), but still a step up from one of the all-time howlers, Gloria Estefan with Brian Boitano and Dorothy Hamill in '92. She was actually back with the Miami Sound Machine in '95 (and again in '99!), a bill that included -- I kid you not -- Indiana Jones, Marion Ravenwood, Teddy Pendergass and Tony Bennett.

Check this list. Insane how many clunkers there are. Three times for Up With People? (Oh, how I remember them all.) Elvis Presto and 3D effects in 1989? At least 1990 was the last college marching band we've witness.

In the meantime, there will remain a disturbance in the Force until halftime features Jay-Z and Beyonce.


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Scott Roberts
Re: Halftime, was Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 19, 2012 at 5:31:55 pm

[Tim Wilson] "On the other hand, Bruce Springsteen did a really stellar show, especially the opening. It's almost exactly the set list I'd have chosen, and performed with virtually no folderol."

I actually did see the Bruce Springsteen halftime show, now that I think about it. I just didn't see it until the next day. My friend said it was actually good, so I watched it on the internet after it happened. It seemed like he did everything right (sliding crotch move into the camera and all), and another good thing about Springsteen's halftime show: IT ACTUALLY APPEALED TO PEOPLE WHO WATCH FOOTBALL.

I don't understand the logic behind going after Madonna for this show... It's honestly mind boggling to me. There was a window for Madonna to have appeared in the Superbowl halftime show, and that was late 80s-early 90s. What are they going for here? Are they hoping that this gentleman pictured below will appreciate a celebration of a female 80s pop star's legacy in the middle of a football game?:

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Are they appealing to his wife? Certainly not his daughters, as they could have then gone after Lady Gaga, who's basically stealing and modernizing Madonna's act from the 80s. (by the way, yes, I am implying with that picture that I expect the Ravens to beat the Patriots)


I'm looking over the Wikipedia page you linked in there, and I'm noticing the Black Eyed Peas did an EIGHT song medley...?!?! That couldn't possibly have been a good idea. But I guess when all of your songs are throwaway pop garbage, you can't just play 2 or 3 of them in full. You need to rapid fire a bunch of songs where people go "Oh yeaaaaahhh, I remember that annoying song from 2007...! I'm gonna take this opportunity to use the restroom."


To be honest, I don't remember very many halftime shows (I didn't mean for that to be a joke about drinking, if it sounded that way, haha). I mean, none of them are ever really that memorable. The "wardrobe malfunction" was the most memorable halftime show, not even for the show itself, but for the media explosion afterwords. I vaguely remember the Paul McCartney show being good, or more so, I remember thinking "at least all the songs he's performing are great". I actually don't remember much from the performance itself. The Rolling Stones did a halftime show a couple years ago? I definitely watched it, but I completely forgot I saw it until I looked at that list on Wikipedia a couple minutes ago. And I LOVE the Stones.


There's no way to satisfy everyone at the halftime show, obviously (well, maybe McCartney?). But I mean, Madonna? At least stay in the football demographic when choosing these things. Want a totally washed up act from the 80s/90s that fits WAY better for the Supebowl? They are also just one word that starts with an "M":

Metallica.

They play "Enter Sandman" enough as lead-ins and lead-outs for commercials during games already. And I hear it blasted over the speakers at the stadiums all the time too. They could ease right into things.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Halftime, was Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 19, 2012 at 6:13:07 pm

All good points about the half time show.

Bands that appeal to NFL fans are generally not most of the pop stars who get invited. Springsteen was probably the most appropriate. Tom Petty or John Mellencamp are good for middle America appeal. Bon Jovi less so as they have become adult contemporary, though they ladies love him.

U2 is universally loved and their show in 2001 was good with its 911 tribute

I would imagine a medley featuring Kid Rock, Allman Brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd and the like would be popular with the fans but less so with the advertisers.

I have avoided the game completely the past two years - I watch the commercials the next day online.

Mike C


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Jeff Breuer
Re: Halftime, was Re: Golden Globes
on Jan 19, 2012 at 6:22:27 pm

[Tim Wilson] "Bruce Springsteen did a really stellar show,"
Bruce probably did the best of the recent crop. I appreciate the Peas trying to bring a "show" back into it, but I'm not a huge fan and parts were kinda-a weird. But a good try.

[Tim Wilson] "Prince was close"

Hands down, Prince was the best show of recent era. Great, classic songs, a surprise cover and a big show with great production value and getting a marching band to fit in. Excellent show.

Best Halftime Ever? Easy, '93 Michael Jackson's Heal the World show at the Rose Bowl Arena. It set the new standard.

Best Choice Not Picked? Again, easy. Foo Fighters. I have never seen a rock show with more energy, amazing pacing and great production value. They could be the best show ever in waiting.

Why Madonna? My guess is that the NFL already has every man possible watching football so now they are on to the ladies. Why do you think they do Breast Cancer Awarenss in October and make everybody wear pink for a month? It's for the ladies. I think they needed a "crossover" artist, took a vote and decided "Madonna" was less douchy than "Nickleback" so they went with that.


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