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Mark Suszko
Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 4:40:51 pm

The movie with fighting robots coming out soon, "Real Steel", is a movie imitation of Rock'em Sock'em Robots.

When I heard they were doing a movie baseed on the boardgame "Battleship", I thought it has to be a joke.

Here then is the trailer, and darn it Liam Neeson is in this, WHY.


http://io9.com/5825168/the-trailer-for-the-battleship-movie-is-like-transfo...

Apparently, the coin op game "Asteroids" is in development.

Please, Lord, make it stop.


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Mike Cohen
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 5:04:06 pm

I understand Jerry Bruckheimer has Hungry Hungry Hippos in development, while across town David Fincher is rumored to be shooting Chinese Checkers in 3D next year.

Here on the east coast, Scorsese and DiCaprio are re-teaming to bring Chutes and Ladders to the big screen. Can't wait!

Mike Cohen

PS - Clue the movie was a big flop in the mid to late 80's and who can forget the Morgan Freeman / Danny DeVito hit "Jenga!"


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Stephen Smith
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 6:26:27 pm

I wonder how many toys the new Transformers movie sold? I guess that must be what is driving a movie based on Battleship. Everyone will want to purchase the game? All I can say is so far it looks bad. As for the good news, I've been eagerly awaiting DiCaprio in Chutes and Ladders for a long time :-)

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Tim Wilson
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 6:27:53 pm

Where have you people been? This is huge news, and it has been underway for years. You can blame it on Transformers if you like, certainly much more so than Clue - clever, but no money in it - but if you bought a ticket to a movie based on a toy, you're part of the reason why it's happening.

Laugh all you want, insert your cleverest joke, but a lot of people did really good work on Transformers, and they've all made a ton more than they cost.

Your jokes are also thinking way, way too small. Here are REAL LIVE, ACTUAL projects underway, complete with budgets and timetables.

Ouija: Michael Bay's company has this. McG (Terminator: Salvation, Charlie's Angels) is directing. 2012 release. Ghosts and sh^t blowing up? I'm just pissed I can't buy a ticket on Fandango yet.

People roll their eyes at McG as a Ritalin-chomping music video director, but he's only done a handful of those. His movies include documentaries and We Are Marshall among many others, and over 300 episodes of TV, including Chuck (like it an awful lot), Human Target (LOVED it), Nikita, Supernatural, The OC, and bunches of others. There may be only a handful of people in the business doing more diverse, consistent HARD work.

Did I mention ghosts and sh^t blowing up?

Monopoly: RIDLEY SCOTT has been attached to this since 2010. I saw him talking about it, saying that it was going to be built around a Trump-esque character...who I personally would get Trump to play...and is slated for 2014 release.

Candy Land: being written by the guys who wrote and produced the Kung Fu Panda movies, as well as co-writing Monsters vs. Aliens. Jonathan Aibel and Glenn Berger also did a bunch of episodes of King of the Hill (they also co-exec produced for 4 years - won an Emmy in 1997, and nominated for 3 more), and wrote for George Carlin.

Aibel went to Harvard, where he studied psychology and music (and wrote for the Hasty Pudding), and Berger studied Japanese and economics at Brown.These are smart, experienced, proven veterans.

They spoke to Entertainment Weekly (yes, I'm a charter subscriber -- 22 years I think) in May (see? where were you guys?) about Candy Land, and said

We envision it as Lord of The Rings, but set in a world of candy.

We don’t see it as a movie based on a board game, although it has characters from that world and takes the idea of people finding themselves in a world that happens to be made entirely of candy where there are huge battles going on.

We are going for real comedy, real action, and real emotions at stake.


So there you go.

As for why Neeson is in Battleship, my guess is that a big reasons is that it's directed by Peter Berg. I'd work for him in a heartbeat.

Refreshing the class's memory, he wrote and directed the movie Friday Night Lights, and has exec produced (and written!!!) the show's 75 eps. He wrote and directed the movie The Rundown, remarked by several folks here as underrated fun. Wrote and directed Hancock (didn't care for it, but a real movie), exec produced Lars and the Real Girl (truly heartfelt indie - one of my favorites), wrote The Losers (where's the sequel already? I had a gas at that) and produced one of my all-time favorite TV series, Wonderland, unfortunately lasting only 8 episodes. Hunt it down. You'll love it, I guarantee. While a tragedy only lasting 8 seasons, it's such an incredibly dark look inside a mental institution, it's a testament to the town's respect for him that it got made at all.

Anyway, if I want to keep doing big-budget action movies, and Peter Berg knocks on my door, I say yes, end of story.

Ditto if Ridley Scott asks me to be in Monopoly...or anything else. I might pause a beat for Ouija, but McG has my full attention. It'd be fun for sure, so I'd almost certainly go for it.

All of these might bite, of course, but that's true of every movie. You look at the ingredients, make your bets, and do the best work you can for a team you believe in. If you're somebody with a bag of money, you spend it to get an even bigger bag of money. Same deal - you lose more than you win, but you still like to be cautious. By any standard, McG, Ridley Scott, Peter Berg, and the Kung Fu Panda guys all seem like good bets to me. Not more than a couple of flops, total, between these guys, and a lot of work to be proud of, above or below the line.


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Scott Roberts
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 7:08:31 pm

I think these will all fall victim to the same thing that happens to countless remakes (and I imagine will happen to the Total Recall remake (whhhhyyyyy remake that???), they will all do serious takes on goofy material, and suck the fun out of everything. Wanna remake Total Recall? Make it 1000x CRAZIER; don't try and do a serious take on an Arnold Schwartzenegger movie... Conan the Barbarian also looks awful. DON'T REMAKE SCHWARTZENEGGER!

I used to play Candyland all the time when I was a kid, it came with a VHS tape that you play and pause alongside the board game. Lots of counting gumdrops and villains made of chocolate. It was designed to entertain 6-year-olds so their parents could take a nap in peace for a change. To turn it into something more than that is pretty stupid to me. I mean it would make a fine childrens movie, as good as Happy Feet or G-Force or something, but a Lord of the Rings scale picture set in Candyland... Well, I just hope it's a comedy...

And you can have all the talent you can get at your fingertips, but, well, I mean even Spielberg can botch projects. War of the Worlds, anyone? Every director eventually has a bad movie or two (or three, or four, or in Uwe Boll's case; infinite), and I'm not saying that these movies will necessarily be bad, but if your starting point is a piece of cardboard with colored boxes on it designed for toddlers, well, it's not a great place to start.

*Correction: now that I really thought about it, the villain was made of licorice. The chocolate guy was a good guy! Are you all ready to see the epic battle between the candy cane army and the licorice knights? Oh... yeah, neither am I...


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Mark Suszko
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 9:40:35 pm

Is that the same Peter Berg the actor, that used to play a hockey-obsessed doctor on either E.R. or Chicago Hope?


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Scott Roberts
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 11:14:57 pm

I hope one day I can work in Hollywood:

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Tim Wilson
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 27, 2011 at 11:42:11 pm

Peter was on Chicago Hope. When I hear about actors wanting to direct(he did a couple of episodes), I don't usually have very high expectations. But boy howdy, he's got game.


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Tim Wilson
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 28, 2011 at 2:02:37 am

[Scott Roberts] "And you can have all the talent you can get at your fingertips, but, well, I mean even Spielberg can botch projects"

$600m worldwide on $130m production budget, B+ Cinemascore, 74% Fresh -- those could all be better, sure, but I'd take them all day, every day.

(For what I find is a much better take on the family side of alien invasion than WotW, check the Spielberg exec-produced Falling Skies on TNT. There are only a couple of episodes left, so look for 'em on demand, but I've enjoyed this immensely.)

No matter what Spielberg and Cruise brought me, I'd invest in it. ESPECIALLY if it was Chutes and Ladders. But I'd insist they add zombies. Vampires are sooooo 2011.

Now, Ridley Scott came closer to whiffing on Robin Hood - $320 on $200/ B- / 42%...but seriously, how long are you going to stare at Ridley Scott across the desk from you and say, sorry bub, you're too big a risk.

Even on a movie based on the board-game Risk. Especially if it had zombies.

Here's the thing. Most of everything isn't all that good. Half or more is outright bad. Books, TV shows, restaurants, cars, diamond tiaras, haircuts, houses - take your pick. Hitting a baseball a little more than a third of the time puts you on the inside track for the Hall of Fame.

Which is why "brand" becomes so important. Hey, this car might be a dud, but the last two I bought from them were great, so maybe I'll like this next one as much as I hope I will.

This is nowhere more true than movies, the most collaborative artform yet invented. Any one movie might have dozens of make-or-break bets to place. The best hedge you have is every participant's track record.

Triangulate that against their clarity of vision (if they can persuade you, maybe they can persuaded the ticket-buying public), and the rest of the team they build (actors, writers, distribution partners, etc etc).

There are no guarantees, but you have to start somewhere. The loonier the concept, the more important it is to bet on the creatives to be as creative as they have been before.


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Scott Roberts
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 28, 2011 at 3:44:56 pm

[Tim Wilson] "ESPECIALLY if it was Chutes and Ladders. But I'd insist they add zombies. Vampires are sooooo 2011."

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Nobody said anything about zombies... If it's Chutes and Ladders and Zombies, I'm 100% behind that concept.

As investments, yes, I would love to invest in most of these projects if I had the money (I certainly do not). Though, my prediction is that Battleship will bomb (no pun intended) horribly. Just my hunch. Not because it's based on a board game (a board game without aliens), but because I don't think they are going to win over a bunch of people with their trailers/commercials. Didn't look that cool or exciting to me. Plus, you cast Sport Illustrated swimsuit models and Rhianna, and you're just asking for horrible acting.

As good as War of the Worlds was at the box office, that will never take away from the fact that it was a crummy movie. Cool special effects, crummy movie. Alice in Wonderland is an even better example (a billion dollars worldwide, FOR THAT? Frustrating...). At some point, financial gain goes out the door with movies. While it's interesting statistics, and great for the investors, and a movie's success DOES factor greatly into how future movies are made (it's a business), as a regular Joe the most important thing is quality. I've only invested $8 and two hours of my time. Entertain me! Alice in Wonderland may have made a billion dollars, but it (in combination with his Willy Wonka crap) made me lose all trust in future Tim Burton projects. I don't know where I'm going with this... Make good movies?? Yeah, that's it. Battleship doesn't look good. And if it makes a ton of money because its title has name recognition, and the movie sucks, everyone loses (except the already rich movie studio). Because the circle of crap will keep going endlessly.

Now, if only we could get America to stop paying for Kevin James & Tyler Perry movies...


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Stephen Smith
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 29, 2011 at 5:39:01 pm

[Scott]
Plus, you cast Sport Illustrated swimsuit models ... , and you're just asking for horrible acting.

I'm not familiar with Brooklyn Decker but I don't think she'll have to do a lot of acting. I hope most of the movie will take place out in the Ocean on Navel ships. I imagine her role will be in the first 30 minutes of the film where she looks super sexy and tells the one guy how much she loves him and then her Dad says that guy is a wild card just like Maverick from Top Gun. She cries as they leave for training. You don't see her again (Unless CNN covers the story of a fleet of Navy vessels that just disappeared, in that case we see her looking sad watching the news) until the end where Maverick saves the day and gets the Admirals blessing to marry his daughter. Liam Neeson the Admiral apologies to the swimsuit model and says Maverick is a great guy and he was not responsible for killing Goose. Maybe a nice wedding scene on the beach and role credits.

D4

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Stephen Smith
Re: Films based on games
on Jul 28, 2011 at 4:18:39 pm

I think a movie called Candy Land could be cool if they made it like the Narnia movies. I think it could work very well.

The reason I thought Battleship looked silly is because I think they handled it wrong. First off, Battleships represented navel power until around WW2. (I'm not a Navel historian) The air craft carrier took its place along with long range weapons. The Battleship movie looks like it takes place today...the Navy doesn't even use Battleships today. Why would they? I think Battleship the movie would have been cool if it took place in WW1 or 2. Made it more like the Hunt For Red October. Very cloak and dagger which I think the game is. Instead it looks like the G.I. Joe movie which could have been so much more.

And last, A2

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