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Mike Allen
Shooting my “Days of Thunder” project
on May 21, 2009 at 8:54:54 pm

I am currently planning production for a corporate Racing based production shot in HD. We are sponsoring a car and printing our logos for the new car wrap and side of the transport truck. This car is similar to NASCAR, however it is a couple of series down in order to improve sponsorship pricing. This car will actually race and the shots captured from the racing scenes will be integral to the entire production.

Now that you have a little background, I will ask my questions. My first question is this. I usually shoot most of my productions with the Sony F350 in 24p, because I like the look. I know that with the cars moving at high speeds and shooting 24p, I am more likely to get shots that will not be nearly as smooth as shooting 60i. However, if is increase my shutter speed considerably (recommendations would be appreciated here) can I get good looking shots shooting in 24p. If it’s just a bad idea, let me know. If you have other recommendations for shooting race footage, especially camera setup, I would be thankful for that as well.

Mike


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Steve Wargo
Re: Shooting my “Days of Thunder” project
on May 23, 2009 at 9:21:38 am

I've shot race cars for many years. 60i is actually the way to go with the shutter set at either 1/60 or 1/250. I would recommend that you try several different combinations, but remember that all NTSC TV is shot at 29.97 interlaced.

The shutter is almost always left at 1/60. If you are following the cars, you want the background to blur naturally. As you increase the shutter speed, the wheels will probably be the first thing that looks stuttery.

Try this for an experiment. Set your camera up and aim it at an ordinary house fan, set on low, med and then high. Then, increase the shutter speed and do the same.

Here are some hard numbers to consider: A NASCAR stock car normally uses a 3.90 rear end gear. They run 8000 rpm at 200mph, so... at 8000rpm (200mph) the axles are turning 2000 rpm or 33 revolutions per second. At 30 frames per second, your wheel should almost appear like it's not turning at all. However, because the shutter is automatically defaulted to 1/60 of a second, a still frame will have the wheel turning throughout the frame. Now, if you dial the shutter to 1/2000 of a second, you will see a completely different picture. the wheel will look like it's turning very slow.

That fan I talked about should be turning at 1850 rpm when it's on high (in the USA). At 1850, the fan blades are tuning about the same as those stock car wheels. Put a mark on one of the blades for even more fun.

When we put cameras in the drivers compartment of off-road trucks, we would set the shutter higher so we could see the mud fly instead of a bunch of blurs.

A word of Caution: As much as you'll want to, do not put your fingers in the spinning blades.

In lesson #2, we'll talk about shooting the muzzle blast on a machine gun.

Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
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