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Kim Gwydir
graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 19, 2010 at 9:44:44 pm

Hello-

I am trying to put together live webcasts for sporting events - I have used livestreams free service and now I want to upgrade to 2 cameras and make it look more professional. I also need to have ESPN style graphic overlays for the score to show - tricaster uses a package called livetext I think but I dont want to spend that much money. Any ideas for finding graphic overlays to use with wirecast like this?

Thanks in advance


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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 19, 2010 at 11:14:06 pm

Examples of scoreboards people are doing in Wirecast.

http://efragtv.com/images/public/wirecast.png

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_wSqTvpOJvpM/S2tKD03QoaI/AAAAAAAAMxE/f3pv3UOjkPk/score...

I'll add the GothGirls in the following posts



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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 19, 2010 at 11:15:43 pm











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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 1:00:12 am

Those are great - how do I go about getting scoreboard graphics like that?

And thanks for all the help


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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 1:06:59 am

I got the links to work - the graphics and the video look great!! The quality looks better than what I get on livestream - I had not tried JustinTV - why did you choose them?




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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 1:24:33 am

It's funny but when I asked Gotham Girls they couldn't give me an definitive answer. I suspect they can send higher data rate than Livestream. Livestream limits it to 500kbps.



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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 2:40:44 am

Thanks for all the input - I also have a macbook pro - 2.4 Ghz intel core 2 duo - i use it mostly for editing and us the PC for the livestreaming - I am going to assume I can add another firewire port - and yes for sure they higher than 500 kbs - looks way better - i will look into the extender for the firewire - last question (for now :) - how long can you extend fire wire with repeater before it degrades?

Thanks - I have learned more tonight than in the last 2 weeks.


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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 2:56:50 am

[Kim Gwydir] "I also have a macbook pro - 2.4 Ghz intel core 2 duo - i use it mostly for editing and us the PC for the livestreaming - I am going to assume I can add another firewire port"
Not all MacBook Pros have an Express port needed to add firewire port. 2008 15" and 17" have the port. Mid 2009 forward only 17" has the Express port.

[Kim Gwydir] "how long can you extend fire wire with repeater before it degrades? "

Every 33' you'd need to use one. Apparently you can do this up to 250'
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/441528-REG/Gefen_FW_141.html#features

Supposedly a Firewire to CAT5 to Firewire (a pair of adaptors) can go over 300" but it's not clear if it's full bandwidth. I've heard some people have done this though.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/431543-REG/Kramer_TP_300FW_TP300W_Fir...







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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 3:02:50 am

How can i tell if i have the express port? when I look at "about this mac" what do I look for?

And if you have any leads about the scoreboard graphics that would be great - I email the group that does the roller derby ones


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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 3:11:25 am

This is a picture of the newest MacBook Pros. See the bottom one. The Express slot has a covered slot.

http://storeimages.apple.com/1708/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/macbook...

This is the MacBook Pro tech spec page. You can see the models listed below.
http://support.apple.com/specs/#portablecomputers

Generally if you bought a new 15" or 17" in 2008 and into early 2009 it has the port.
In mid 2009 they dropped it from the 15"
Just look at the side of your laptop.



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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 3:20:45 am

ha ha always wondered what that was - yup I got it.

Thanks


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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 3:25:08 am

Adaptor like this would work
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/437092-REG/SIIG_NN_EC2012_S1_2_Port_F...



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Kim Gwydir
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 1:08:47 pm

I will order that - I was playing with the trial version of wirecast last night 2 more questions

1) can I record a broadcast (to an external harddrive) at the same time I am streaming it?
2) any idea when the new version coming out with the scoreboard graphics included?

Thanks again for all of your help - this seems to be my budget to my webcasts if I can get the scoreboard graphics figured out.


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Craig Seeman
Re: graphic overlays needed for sports webcast
on Jun 20, 2010 at 1:22:33 am

Gotham Girls use Rinxter
http://www.rinxter.com/www/home/home.jsp
Free to any Roller Derby league.
They say they're willing to customize for pay though. They might be willing to do it for other sports.

I can find out about the others. There's lots of custom packages around apparently.



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