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Steve Marce
How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 11, 2016 at 9:50:29 pm

Hey guys,
How do i send a video clip from premiere pro cs6 timeline to photoshop cs6 to edit the clip frame by frame, like a still, and thereby harnessing and enjoying the incredible tools and power that Photoshop has..?!
And after making the necessary changes in the frame how to reflect the changes i made to the succeding frames..? I mean to whatever number of frames that i choose/select to reflect those changes on..?

Best,
Steve


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Kalleheikki Kannisto
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 12, 2016 at 7:59:03 am

Exporting an lossless-compression image sequence is the way to go. There are several formats that support this, such as PNG, TIFF and TARGA sequences.

Bring the exported frames in as an image sequence and it will become footage in Photoshop. Making edits to multiple frames at the same time requires using adjustment layers, as doing edits directly to one image won't affect any of the other images, whereas adjustment layers will.

To apply filters to the entire footage, convert it to a smart object first. See here: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/new-video-features-photoshop-cs6.ht...

Another option, depending on what you want to do with the footage, is to open just the first frame, record an action while you edit the frame and run the rest of the frames through that action.

Photoshop editing is best for overall effects, such as turning the whole footage into a painting, not for localized corrections like cloning something out, as you would have to do that frame by frame, which would be both slow and obvious on playback. Localized corrections are better done in After Effects, but that's a whole different subject.

Kalleheikki Kannisto
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Steve Marce
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 13, 2016 at 3:07:57 pm

Thank you Kalleheikki.
Is there any other way than exporting as lossless compression image sequence..? And if done this way which of the three formats you mentioned is best, PNG, TIFF or TARGA? and how to export it as a lossless compression image sequence? Also I don't want to open it as a footage in photoshop, wanna edit frame by frame as a still image..

About the other option you mentioned, how to open just the first frame..?
And can you elaborate a little on localized corrections?

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Steve


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Kalleheikki Kannisto
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 14, 2016 at 8:30:13 am

File format seems to be a matter of opinion. I use TIFF for the most part. All three formats export as a lossless sequence, just make sure it is progressive, not interlaced.

To edit frame by frame you can simply open the files one by one. Or you can import as a sequence and convert to frame-by-frame animation. The latter option will take much more memory obviously.

Anything that can be recorded as an action -- and the great majority of Photoshop edits can be -- can be batch processed for the whole image sequence. Overall effects make more sense done this way, since if you have the camera or objects moving in the footage, local effects (using selections, for instance) can end up in the wrong place as the objects or the camera moves.

By localized correction I mean something like cloning something out of the image frame by frame. It will look different from frame to frame so you'll get wild flickering in the resulting footage if you do it that way. In AE you have clone tool that automatically does the same cloning or moving-origin cloning across the footage.

You can certainly do frame by frame editing, I'm just cautioning that it may not be workable for every situation.

Kalleheikki Kannisto
Senior Graphic Designer


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Roei Tzoref
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 16, 2016 at 4:01:53 pm

Hi Kannisto :)


[Kalleheikki Kannisto] "File format seems to be a matter of opinion. I use TIFF for the most part. All three formats export as a lossless sequence, just make sure it is progressive, not interlaced.
"


in my experience they look the same, only that Png is much smaller so this is the advantage. is your experience showing otherwise?

[Kalleheikki Kannisto] "By localized correction I mean something like cloning something out of the image frame by frame. It will look different from frame to frame so you'll get wild flickering in the resulting footage if you do it that way. In AE you have clone tool that automatically does the same cloning or moving-origin cloning across the footage.

You can certainly do frame by frame editing, I'm just cautioning that it may not be workable for every situation.
"


Yep, Ae has cloning too but Ps offers more flexibility and precise control over brushes and the ability to mix and match different techniques to patch up footage. (content aware, healing brush etc). downside is of course making each frame unike will cause noticeable jitter. you can work with Ps for frame by frame patch work only in some specific cases - thank you for making it clear.

here is a behind the scenes of a cool clip, and there was cleaning up done in photoshop to remove the rig and complete parts that were missing. I see no timeline and I believe this could help them alot to see how it actually translate to a moving sequence instead of a still: minute 1:49. in the comments they specify it was about 4,000 frames cleaned manually in photoshop frame by frame


here is the clip


Roei Tzoref
Ae Artist & Instructor
https://vimeo.com/aeblues


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Roei Tzoref
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 12, 2016 at 8:24:02 am
Last Edited By Roei Tzoref on Sep 12, 2016 at 8:26:07 am

here's a tutorial I made that shows a this type of workflow only it's Ae->Ps and back. you could use premiere for the same thing.






from the description:
Learn how to use Photoshop to enhance your After Effect's Rotoscoping skills. by using Photoshop's tools in a Frame Animation timeline, you can get more control in those cases where you need to do Roto and Clean up operations frame by frame. we will take a trip from Ae to Ps and back to complete our composite of a short Stop-motion 12Fps sequence.

more about using Photoshop's tools to enhance visual effects work in After Effects can be found in "After Effects Help Guide / Working with After Effects and other applications" look under - "Comparative advantages for specific tasks": https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/effects-applications.html#worki...


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Steve Marce
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 13, 2016 at 3:17:57 pm

Thnx a bunch Roei!

Gr8 tutorial! Real saver!

Best,
Steve


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Roei Tzoref
Re: How to send a video clip from premiere pro timeline to photoshop and edit it frame by frame?
on Sep 13, 2016 at 8:43:31 pm

Thank you Steve. Glad this one actually helped anybody because it's a pretty esoteric workflow. would be glad to see what you used Ps frame by frame for so feel free to post the results.


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