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Matt Korshis
Another RED Post Workflow Rookie
on Jan 5, 2011 at 1:27:45 pm

Hi,
I am currently doing the post production for a short film. Basically it is my first project of this scale and am learning as I go. I spent days reading forums, tutorials etc etc on post production workflow prior to commencing the edit. I still have many questions, a lot of them are in regard to the grade/colour correction and making sure I am not losing picture quality throughout my pipeline. Below are the details of the workflow I have chosen. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I feel like I am in slightly over my head.

The footage is RED 4K. I am using CS5(Windows). The DOP will do colour correction/grade in Apple Color. The final output will be 2K.

Workflow:

- I have started the project directly in Premiere CS5 with the RED RAW format. Skipped using REDCINE-X for any middle man carry on.

- Within Premiere I have linked audio back to the clips, then edited the film together.

- While editing in Premiere I have also been working on several VFX shots for the film in After Effects.

- When the edit is done I will open the Premiere project in After Effects and insert the VFX shots + do any reframing + down size to 2K. Output from After Effects as a DPX sequence.

-DOP will use DPX files in Apple Color for the grade. He will then return it to me for a final render with sound etc.

Questions:
- For the pro’s out there are then any glaring mistakes that are going to trip me over somewhere in the process?

- Should there be any kind of colour correction/grade/sharpen etc etc earlier in the process than what I have?

- I have been quite confused by the 8,16,32 bit colour information, should my after effects project be set to 32 bit floating point so that when I output my DPX files the person grading the film will have maximum amount of information to work with? I have read that RED records 12bit colour so does that mean 16bit in after effects is sufficient?

- Is DPX my best option for grading?

I have more questions but will leave them for know. Please throw any feedback/suggestions my way, and be harsh as I am a rookie. Thank you so much for your time.

Matt

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Noah Kadner
Re: Another RED Post Workflow Rookie
on Jan 5, 2011 at 4:18:08 pm

Sounds ok- I could see potential audio sync issues creeping in just with that much back and forth especially PC<>MAC. Make sure you lock down frame rates across everything. And also keep in mind this is going to be massive amounts of data so beef up on your hard drive capabilities. I'd send over a test scene to the DP and see if it all comes back the way you expect from his system.

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Chris Wright
Re: Another RED Post Workflow Rookie
on Jan 5, 2011 at 7:27:23 pm

"down size to 2K"

Are you using AE to resize smaller? AE isn't the best resizer in the world.

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Matt Korshis
Re: Another RED Post Workflow Rookie
on Jan 9, 2011 at 11:59:37 pm

Noah-
Great points, thanks heaps. Will definently send the DP a scene as a test.

Chris-
Could you elaborate a little on what you mean by AE not being good for resizing. The main reason I am resizing is because I am would like to re frame some of the shots etc, so chose to downsize the whole film. Could you suggest a better way to do it? Thanks

Matt


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Chris Wright
Re: Another RED Post Workflow Rookie
on Jan 10, 2011 at 1:10:00 am

AE doesn't even do bicubic resize like photoshop does. You'll definately not get film quality scaling in there.

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