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Patrick Ortman
Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Jun 22, 2010 at 6:22:20 pm

Hi Guys,

We just finished a RED greenscreen shoot that went REALLY WELL. I was impressed, bigtime.

I noticed a few things that may be helpful:

1) exposure is everything, and the RED's monitor out and EVF both put out an image that tried to trick my eyes into thinking we were overexposing. I used the tools in the cam and a light meter to prove our exposure was good, but if I'd tried to be lazy and shoot by eye we'd have been sunk.

2) the hard drives really should not be unplugged and swapped while the cam is on. My AC thought it'd be OK to do that, but I found a few dropped frames as a result. Not a horrible problem, but a pain.

3) keying on RED is just STUNNINGLY FUN.

4) one really needs a RED Rocket to make use of this camera.

It was a great experience, the client's thrilled, and I posted a short vlog about it on our blog:

http://blog.patrickortman.com



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Illya Laney
Re: Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Jun 22, 2010 at 9:18:18 pm

"RED's monitor out and EVF both put out an image that tried to trick my eyes into thinking we were overexposing."

Were you using any sort of scopes to monitor your footage?

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Patrick Ortman
Re: Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Jun 22, 2010 at 9:39:57 pm

We used the built-ins that show up in the LCD and EVF. They helped a lot. But I also used my lightmeter (calibrated to 320) to be sure. I know, it's a bit of overkill- but it's so vital to be sure about exposure. For example, last year we did our first RED greenscreen shoot, and we really messed up- we underexposed by a full stop. It was a mess in post, but fixable.

I'm especially excited about the MX sensor, but at this time it looks like we're keeping the original sensor in our RED, since we're going to upgrade to the Epic-X when that becomes available.

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Noah Kadner
Re: Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Jun 23, 2010 at 12:42:47 am

Love the layout and look of the vlog but Patrick if you're going to do video blogging please don't skimp on the audio. Hearing echoey direct camera audio really takes me out of the game when I'm listening to someone weigh in as an expert. It takes so little to fix this. Doesn't matter if it's shot on the iPhone- attach a 3rd party iPhone lav mic adapter or go double system if need be. Here's an example of what it should sound like (and wouldn't hurt to look like either):

http://www.thec47.com/

Noah



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Patrick Ortman
Re: Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Jun 23, 2010 at 1:20:43 am

Point well taken, Noah. Especially since it looks like we'll be doing these regularly. I will get myself to the Apple store ASAP :-)

My only defense is I wanted to see if we could do the whole thing on the iPhone, we have an echoey studio, and that's the sound of the plug-in mike that came with the Owle Bubo system (which actually is a really cool setup for video on the iPhone).

That said, yeah, I'm going to get a 3rd party lav that plugs into the iPhone. It'll let me keep the immediacy of the iPhone-only setup but give much more pro audio, I'm sure. Thanks!

P

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Brandon Morris
Re: Greenscreen, Exposure, Frame Drops and More... (and new vlog)
on Feb 28, 2012 at 10:48:58 pm

Do I need to change any settings before I key with the Red?
I've keyed all types of footage with keylight and have never had a problem.
But when I try to use Red One, Epic, or Scarlet r3d or ProRes files, the key is awful.
The setup for shooting was correct. Do I need to apply a LUT or shift anything?

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