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Danny Baron
Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on Apr 29, 2010 at 9:12:13 pm

I'm helping a friend who just got a Red to shoot in India. Assuming the camera makes it through the heat and humidity, I have a question about transcoding and workflow. He's looking at a very compact high-speed on-set copying, transcoding, on-the-go color for on-set handling of the files. It's a Wrangler with a Red Rocket. But it's PC and they want to post in Final Cut. The suggestion is to transcode to Cineform Neoscene. Previously he'd been intending to go to Prores.

Has anyone worked with the Cinefom files in final Cut from Red Raw?

The alternative is popping the rocket in a Tower at the post room and transcoding nightly.

Danny


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Noah Kadner
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on Apr 30, 2010 at 1:37:20 am

Why? ProRes is the better way to go. Unless you're somehow looking to make the Cineform your online version which I wouldn't recommend RedRocket is best at making your ProRes files.

Noah


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David Battistella
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on Apr 30, 2010 at 2:53:32 am

[Noah Kadner] "Why? ProRes is the better way to go"


It's a REDROCKET on a PC. You can not render Prores on a PC.

David


Peace


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David Battistella
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on Apr 30, 2010 at 2:55:33 am

Are you just talking about dallies here?

Maybe you could use a cross platform codec like DVCPROHD. It's lightweight, can be edited on FW drives and renders pretty quickly.

David


Peace


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Doug Beal
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on Apr 30, 2010 at 5:49:37 pm

Glad to hear someone suggest that.
we do all our offline QT out of Scratch in DVCProHD 23.98
works great, looks great, edit on a laptop w no issues
put source BITC in the letterbox (if shot 2:1 which most is)
no issues on conform cause the QT ref has BITC
client wants to show it w/o BITC... crop bottom and it's clean
just don't give me a ref w/o bitc it'll cost you if there are issues
(like you forgot which sequence made the ref etc etc)

Doug Beal
Editor / Engineer
Rock Creative Images
Nashville TN


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Noah Kadner
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on May 1, 2010 at 1:15:15 am

oops- missed that detail. Can ya just grab a Mac Pro? RED makes no secret that they are Mac folks and the PC versions of their software is always second...

Noah

Check out my book: RED: The Ultimate Guide to Using the Revolutionary Camera!
Unlock the secrets of 24p, HD and Final Cut Studio with Call Box Training. Featuring the Sony EX1 Guidebook, Panasonic HVX200, Canon EOS 5D Mark II and Canon 7D.
Watch Formosa- My indie movie shot with the SDX900 and finished with Final Cut Studio.


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David Battistella
Re: Red workflow - Transcoding - CineForm Neoscene
on May 1, 2010 at 3:30:29 am




I love this codec...

Great for HD offline. Fast for transcoding for web screeners or DVD. Lightweight, accurate professional and not as RAM intensive as PRORES, which does not work on a G5.

Very handy.

David




Peace


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