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Mark Shepherd
Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 15, 2010 at 5:29:27 am

I had my hopes up and traveled to NAB to see and (hopefully) hold a fully realized and working version of the SCARLET but instead found some un working Scarlet "brains"secured under glass and unconfigured along with a fixed lens model. It seems that RED is putting all its energy and future into the EPIC with its "future proof" 4k and 5K features. I listened to the packed presentation about how 2k is so yesterday and how filmmakers and studios must future proof with 5k masters. So much for waiting on an inexpensive camera from RED. The CANON 5D seems like it had all the mojo this years NAB, the CANON's presentation was impressive.


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Russell Lasson
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 15, 2010 at 5:37:52 am

I thought that RED stated clearly that Epic was first priority and that Scarlet would follow shortly. I felt pretty good seeing a couple of Epics getting an image out to a monitor. That's a pretty good first step.

While I was watching, one of the had an error and needed to be restarted. It booted up in 10-15 seconds. That's a big improvement too. It requires patience. It's hard to see what's going to come and to not have it yet, but I think it's kind of fun to have a company actually share what they're trying to get to before they know how they're going to do it.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
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Graeme Nattress
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 16, 2010 at 4:04:19 pm

A lot of the electronics development for Epic flows over into getting Scarlet ready and working. In some ways Scarlet is a bit more complex with it's built-in lens, so there are strong reasons why priority is getting Epic out, and then using that to quickly finish the Scarlet development.

Graeme

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Illya Laney
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 17, 2010 at 2:42:45 am

I'm a fan of the Canon 5D, but it's going to be gathering dust in a couple years. By the time they do a serious upgrade, which will also up the price, the Scarlet will hopefully be available.

If you're serious about cameras, why not buy both of them? If you choose to rent them out, you'll recoup your money in no time and you'll be able to satisfy the Canon fans and REDhead guys both.

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Kris Anderson
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 18, 2010 at 12:03:42 am

Why would you get your hopes up for Scarlet when RED have expressly stated no Scarlet until Epic is done? Always amazes me when people don't listen.


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Bob Zelin
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 18, 2010 at 2:23:31 am

what amazes me more is that it appears that many people are putting their careers "on hold" until
Scarlet gets released. Who needs to make a movie unless they have the "right" camera. This is so rediculous - a film maker can rent a camera, or they can buy a Canon 5D, or countless other solutions - but many feel that if there is no $5000 RED solution, then they will continue to work at McDonnalds until this camera is released.

Bob Zelin




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Tim Kolb
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 19, 2010 at 2:59:51 pm

Bob Z: "- but many feel that if there is no $5000 RED solution, then they will continue to work at McDonnalds until this camera is released."


Well...that sounds like the two years leading up to the RED ONE to me. I can remember standing in cab and lunch lines at two NABs talking with people who were of similar mindset (not working at McDonald's necessarily, but waiting to do a project until the camera came out...some for two years.)

Quite a statement about the impression this company has made on the industry I'd say, but I'd have to agree with BobZ (as I typically do).

I always perceived the philosophy behind RED to be to reset the price/performance standard to make digital cinematography tools available to more users than ever before and diminish the influence of the costs and logistics of technology on the creative process.

It does seem that many are now more technology-focused than ever before...




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Russell Lasson
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 20, 2010 at 7:00:08 am

[Bob Zelin] "but many feel that if there is no $5000 RED solution, then they will continue to work at McDonnalds until this camera is released. "

But they just trained me on how to cook the frozen patties on the grill! Life is good!

[Bob Zelin] "what amazes me more is that it appears that many people are putting their careers "on hold" until
Scarlet gets released. "


I completely agree.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Illya Laney
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 18, 2010 at 2:49:22 am

"Why would you get your hopes up for Scarlet when RED have expressly stated no Scarlet until Epic is done? Always amazes me when people don't listen."

Are you responding to me or the original poster? If it's not me, then ignore my response...

I said that by the time Canon does a SERIOUS update, Scarlet will hopefully be out. I don't feel like explaining what a serious update would entail, the shortcomings of the Canon are obvious anyway, and it's not something a firmware update's going to fix.

All in all that means a decent chunk of time from now. 6 months sound reasonable? I don't think it's ridiculous to think that the 2/3" will be out by then because everyone's saying the Epic is finishing up, but I do think it's ridiculous that people thought Scarlet would be ready by NAB.



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Kris Anderson
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on Apr 18, 2010 at 2:52:55 am

Sorry... was replying to the OP.


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Richard Dee
Re: Working Scarlet a "no show" at NAB
on May 27, 2010 at 5:53:02 pm

Agreed about Bob waiting for Scarlet...

I have a feature I want to shoot, and it looks like it will be shot on the 5D.

If I have any money left by the time Scarlet S53 comes out, I'll consider getting it.




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