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stan jackson
transcoding r3d to pro res workflow?
on Apr 10, 2010 at 9:49:37 pm

Hi everybody,

About to start work on my first RED project as an assistant editor in Final Cut. Been reading up a lot on the process of working with the footage, but just curious if anyone has any good tutorials they could point out so I'm not totally out of it when I start next week.

Footage is being shot 4K 24p on the RED, and they want to transcode from the raw r3d to a Pro Res proxy for the offline edit to eventually be rountrip'd using Crimson back to the raw r3d.

Not worried about the rountrip/conform so much as the initial transcoding as I don't have experience with the RED. The client wants us to use RedCine I believe for the transcoding (maybe red rushes?) as opposed to the Log & Transfer in FCP. All I can find in RedCine (which seems pretty overwhelming in itself) is the option to export, and it seems to take ages.

Is this the right way to go about it, or can anyone shed some light on how to do this transcoding properly?

Thanks so much, sorry if this message doesn't make much sense, I feel I'm going to be in a bit over my head in the first few days and as the only assistant I'm more than a little concerned.

Stan


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Russell Lasson
Re: transcoding r3d to pro res workflow?
on Apr 11, 2010 at 5:08:08 am

I would suggest either Clipfinder or REDCINE-X. 8-core machine is a must, even then, without a REDROCKET, you'll likely have about a 3:1 encode time depending on settings.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Illya Laney
Re: transcoding r3d to pro res workflow?
on Apr 14, 2010 at 12:32:46 am

Why does your client care which method you use if you're just going to ProRes Proxy for an offline edit?

Using REDCINE is outdated so REDCINE-X is the way to go, it will probably get your work done much faster because you'll be able trim your transcodes in a proper timeline plus have a variety of options as to how you can apply your look presets. I think a beta version will be available soon which allows for audio sync. If your client is concerned about the way the footage looks, makes sure to choose an appealing colorspace and gamma. It really makes a difference.

Motion Design, Color, Editing
Simulated Wood Grain Cabinet Inc.
Bunim-Murray Productions


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Johnny Friday
Re: transcoding r3d to pro res workflow?
on Apr 21, 2010 at 8:34:16 pm

without the rocket card, transcode times will be very long. If you must do a prores transcode, then use redcine-x (i believe build 104) and you can then do 1/4 to 1/2 debayer transcodes---won't look so great, but ok for editing. BUT, if you are just using for proxy, then why not use clipfinder and qt proxies? Personally, i do full debayer using rocket and one light, then output to prores 4444. then go to color if needed.

Johnny Friday
Baja Productions
La Paz, Mexico
RED Underwater Imaging


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