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Chris Greidanus
Red Camera - Black video!!! Help! Red Alert!?
on Jul 24, 2009 at 2:57:07 am

Hey guys...

Just shot with the Red for the first time today. Day 1 of a 2 day music video shoot. So far so good....until I tried looking at the footage.

I got the files onto my computer and notice that it's all black. I can hear audio, but the footage is completely black.

After doing some research I found out that I had to go into Red Alert! and hit the "defaults" button to bring the color back in and thus giving me my image. I'm guessing my DP overlooked this when setting up the camera? Because things looked good on my video assist while shooting but the colors look to have been dropped to zero.

Anyways, this brings me to my question....

1) Where do I go from here now that I've gotten my image back?! Do I have to bring each clip into Red Alert! and process each one?!

2) If so, how far should I be color correcting it in Red Alert! Are these my final clips that I'll be cutting and finishing with?

3) If I am cutting the video in FCP then how should I be processing these files? ie. Debayer Quality, Output format, QT codec, etc. (Side note: We shot in 2K because the camera wouldn't allow us to overcrank for the necessary frame rates for slow-mo in 3K and 4K.)

4)And are these now going to be the final files that I cut and finish with because I have a lot of compositing to do and I need to be working with the final hi res footage, not low res proxies or anything like that. I need to be working with the final hi res quality.


Thank you so much for any advice that will help me get past this very frustrating first step and allow me to actually start cutting this thing.

Chris


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Russell Lasson
Re: Red Camera - Black video!!! Help! Red Alert!?
on Jul 24, 2009 at 3:47:12 am

I would bring it all into Clip Finder and do a color pass. You'll be able to grade one shot then copy and paste that to all the others. Then just finesse the rest of the shots.

At 2k, you'll need to do a full debayer. A half debayer will just take half the resolution of the 2k image, which isn't what you want. I'd render to ProRes HQ or now that FCS3 is out, it might be fun to play with ProRes 4444.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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Chris Greidanus
Re: Red Camera - Black video!!! Help! Red Alert!?
on Jul 24, 2009 at 4:34:17 am

Thanks for the quick reply Russel! You seem to be the man with all the answers around here and I appreciate the help. Also, thanks for the heads up on FCP 7 with the new ProRes 4444...looks like what I need.

I just need to clarify the steps involved here....please correct me if I'm wrong.

1) Bring all clips into clip finder (which I just downloaded and trying to figure out)
2) Fix the color
3) Render them in Clip finder (or in Red Alert??) and with what attributes?

4) And finally, will these now be my new hi-res master clips in which I will cut with, composite with, and finish with?

Is there no easier way around this?

I'm scared of going down a long road only to find out that I didn't do the right thing when it's too late. I need to make the best decision now so that I don't find out that I burnt myself down the line when I start effects and finishing.

Thanks for your help!
Chris


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Russell Lasson
Re: Red Camera - Black video!!! Help! Red Alert!?
on Jul 24, 2009 at 1:45:11 pm

[Chris Greidanus] "1) Bring all clips into clip finder (which I just downloaded and trying to figure out)
2) Fix the color
3) Render them in Clip finder (or in Red Alert??) and with what attributes? "


You'll render them through Clip Finder.

[Chris Greidanus] "4) And finally, will these now be my new hi-res master clips in which I will cut with, composite with, and finish with? "

You certainly can use these to finish with. Many people do. Because we have a Scratch system, we like to make offline editing files at 720P or SD resolution. They render much faster in Clip Finder than full or half debayer files in Clip Finder. Then we edit. When we're done, we reconnect the edit in Scratch with the native R3D files using an EDL. Then we do the final color in Scratch.

There are certainly plenty of workflows out there. How do you plan to do your color correction?

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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