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Joshua Ferg
RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 20, 2009 at 7:46:36 pm

Hi All - I have a project coming up which will be shot with the DP's Red and cut on FCP.

I've been researching advice and find tidbits, but no substantial guide on how best to prepare for the post side with FCP or recomendations on the RED > FCP workflow.

I've read that transcoding to PRORES is recomended but I'm hoping can either offer some advice on the issue or suggest a resource I haven't discovered.

The FCP system is top of the line and I'll be doing CC with a third party. Output will be tape via AVID DNX and digital for broadband.

Best,
Josh



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Uli Plank
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 20, 2009 at 10:18:24 pm

On which system will CC be done?

Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts


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Joshua Ferg
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 20, 2009 at 11:14:07 pm

I haven't landed on a facility yet - probobly DaVinci.



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Uli Plank
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 21, 2009 at 6:02:46 am

Then I'd suggest an offline edit in FCP, either native or ProRes. Native is faster in the beginning, but less fluid during your work, ProRes needs heavy transcoding times, but is smoother to work with.

When your edit is confirmed, conform back with Monkey Extract and generate DPX files to hand them over.

Regards,

Uli

Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts


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Joshua Ferg
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 21, 2009 at 2:25:32 pm

Great advice. Greatly appreciated.



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Mike Most
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 22, 2009 at 1:44:58 am

On most modern tower Macs, you can transcode to 720/24p ProRes using 1/4 debayer in less than 1.5 times the running time. The newest machines will do it in real time or less. I don't consider that "heavy transcoding time." If you're doing an offline/online approach, the 720, 1/4 debayer files will be just fine for the offline. Most viewers won't even see the difference between that and 1920x1080 with a better debayer.



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Uli Plank
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 22, 2009 at 7:44:19 am

Well, it depends to which degree you need to see detail during offline. Focus is much more critical on the Red than on an ordinary video camera. If the footage has been checked before, you can offline very well even with 1/4 debayer and DVCProHD as a lightweight codec.
But if you need to compare focus from several takes during edit decisions you may need more resolution.

Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts


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Mike Most
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jun 22, 2009 at 4:32:17 pm

Given that the delivery is video and Internet anyway, I really don't see this as much of an issue. Besides, with every editor and every director I've ever worked with, in a decision between focus and performance, performance wins every time.



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chris rubino
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jul 26, 2009 at 1:53:08 pm

hi all,
can someone advise me what is best for editing on red data? Is it wiser to import red proxiesby drag and drop or to transcode red files to pro_res files and then import these files using the log and import tool? Thanks for your help!


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Russell Lasson
Re: RED & FCP Worflow Advice
on Jul 26, 2009 at 7:09:25 pm

First, you should do some more reading in this forum to see how many other times people have asked this question. There is probably some really great material that you haven't looked at yet.

Next, read the RED FCS White Paper on RED's support website.

Then we need to know how you're going to do the finishing work and color correction?

I personally like to transcode footage through REDRushes or Clip Finder for editing, then reconnect to the R3D files for coloring, but that workflow doesn't work for everyone.

Also, if you want more attention, you might consider starting a new thread next time instead of jumping on one that's a month old.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net


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