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Michael Cinquin
transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 27, 2009 at 4:24:40 pm

hi

I thought some people here might be interested in this new tool : http://michaelcinquin.com/tools/red

It allows to transfer a timeline from Final Cut Pro to RedCine. It can be considered as a free light alternative to Crimson Workflow.

The tool was built an used for my last red project. I hope some of you will enjoy it



Michael Cinquin


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Noah Kadner
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 27, 2009 at 10:08:51 pm

I'd suggest a downloadable standalone version. The idea is great but personally I'm not going to upload an edited timeline to a public website.

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David Battistella
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 27, 2009 at 11:12:35 pm



Michael,

Do you really think REDCINE is an effective finishing tool considering it does not even have V-out to a broadcast monitor?

Why would you use it over baselight?

David




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Michael Cinquin
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 3:36:30 am

I'd suggest a downloadable standalone version. The idea is great but personally I'm not going to upload an edited timeline to a public website.

Well then you could stick to Crimson Workflow... My version is web-based because it's a personal tool I made public, and I develop for myself in php.

Do you really think REDCINE is an effective finishing tool considering it does not even have V-out to a broadcast monitor?

No, redcine is not a "finishing tool". It's the same thing as a negative development. It is a very good place to develop your r3d files into what the DOP tried to do on the stage, to prepare for later grading. The absence of video out is not a problem when using it on a calibrated dvi monitor. I found the image monitored on redcine and later on seen on the baselight was close.

Why would you use it over baselight?

For one, because Baselight do not still handle r3d files : you have to turn them first into dpx. Next version of Baselight should handle r3d files though.
Then, it will depend on what controls Baselight gives over red files processing. For instance, Color do give a lot of control on r3d files processing, but not nearly as much as Redcine do (for instance, no debayer detail).

Michael Cinquin


Final Cut Pro - Avid Media Composer editor
Baselight - Color colorist
http://www.michaelcinquin.com/tools : tools for FCP | Color | RED | subtitles | Cinema Tools | Timecode - Keycode calculator



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David Battistella
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 4:03:06 am



Great points.

Is there a way to do handles or could you export a two layer XML timeline and then relink it to the original FCP timeline?

David




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David


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Michael Cinquin
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 29, 2009 at 6:22:46 am

Is there a way to do handles or could you export a two layer XML timeline and then relink it to the original FCP timeline?


I have now added the handles feature to the tool.

Michael Cinquin


Final Cut Pro - Avid Media Composer editor
Baselight - Color colorist
http://www.michaelcinquin.com/tools : tools for FCP | Color | RED | subtitles | Cinema Tools | Timecode - Keycode calculator



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David Battistella
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 29, 2009 at 6:19:33 pm



Thanks for this.

David




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David


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gary adcock
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 2:38:37 pm

[Michael Cinquin] "For one, because Baselight do not still handle r3d files : you have to turn them first into dpx. Next version of Baselight should handle r3d files though."

Michael, I am under the assumption that the current release builds of Baselight can read r3d files directly and have since last fall at IBC.

I do not see nor understand your issue with DPX files- these have been a standard for over 10 years for color correction on the high end and tools like your BL system should handle the files with ease.



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Michael Cinquin
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 3:05:52 pm

Michael, I am under the assumption that the current release builds of Baselight can read r3d files directly and have since last fall at IBC.


Next version of Baselight will read r3d files (4.0). Present version (3.3) can't. What you saw at the IBC was probably a beta version.

I do not see nor understand your issue with DPX files- these have been a standard for over 10 years for color correction on the high end and tools like your BL system should handle the files with ease.


There must be some kind of misunderstanding : I don't recall saying Baselight had an issue with dpx files... did I ? Of course the Baselight handle dpx files perfectly, this is why I "develop" r3d files into dpxs to feed them to the Baselight !

Michael Cinquin


Final Cut Pro - Avid Media Composer editor
Baselight - Color colorist
http://www.michaelcinquin.com/tools : tools for FCP | Color | RED | subtitles | Cinema Tools | Timecode - Keycode calculator



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Noah Kadner
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 7:42:57 pm

Or Clipfinder which is also free and a downloadable app:

http://www.daun.ch/software/

-Noah

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Michael Cinquin
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on May 28, 2009 at 9:32:40 pm

Or Clipfinder which is also free and a downloadable app:


thanks, I didn't know Clipfinder and it looks very very useful.

But as far as I could read, it does not feature the "conform an FCP timeline into redCine", and that's the whole points of the red tool on my website !

Michael Cinquin


Final Cut Pro - Avid Media Composer editor
Baselight - Color colorist
http://www.michaelcinquin.com/tools : tools for FCP | Color | RED | subtitles | Cinema Tools | Timecode - Keycode calculator



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Yianni Warnock
Re: transfer your red timeline from FCP to RedCine : the free way
on Mar 13, 2010 at 12:31:20 pm

Hello,

I was very excited to find out about this free utility you're offering, although it hasn't worked for me. When I go to load all I can see all the shots in the from the shared link but it sais no media? everything else looked the same as on your tutorial so I am perplexed, any advice, have you come accross this?


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