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Jean-Pierre Desrochers
Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 8, 2016 at 12:34:00 pm

Hi,
I'm trying to find the best encoding (not too compressed)
recording setup for my Magewell XI100DUSB-HDMI dongle inside
a program called Vmix.
That's the best PC soft I found for recording with Magewell.
But this program offers lots of possible video/audio encoding schemes
and here are the 3 best recommended ones:
http://www.arcenson.com/public/Recommended_Vmix_Recording_settings.pdf
What would be your opinions of the best one suited
to be used as post-prod edition inside Sony Vegas Pro 13 ?
It seems settings 1 or 2 would do ??
If any modifications of one of these settings could be done
for better encoding please specify..
Thanks as usual for your great support.
J-Pierre

J-P Desrochers
Quebec, Canada


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John Rofrano
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 8, 2016 at 12:40:43 pm

*** WARNING ***

The link to that PDF file trigged my Web of Trust filter as an untrusted site. I would warn other COW members NOT to click on that link!!!

You should cut and paste any text you want us to see into your post or take a screen shot and post it as an image here:



~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Jean-Pierre Desrochers
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 8, 2016 at 1:03:26 pm

Sad to here that since the provided link is inside
my own personal web space. The problem is that the
info I need you to see is a 4 scrolling pages PDF
hard to attach as a .JPG file..
This ftp space IS SAFE and has provided COW users
lots of viewable infos over my last years posts..

J-P Desrochers
Quebec, Canada


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Jean-Pierre Desrochers
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 8, 2016 at 1:31:20 pm

Here are 3 snapshots of the encoding choices..






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John Rofrano
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 9, 2016 at 7:52:13 pm

Your comments in the screen captures seem to indicate that are already aware of the trade-off.

Option 1 would be the best tradeoff between quality and file size as long as Vegas Pro will edit the files smoothly. It should since they are MPEG-2 Transport Streams. I would test it out just to be sure.

Option 2 is probably overkill although it is lossless and you're correct, you need to install a codec to use them. The question is whether or not Vegas Pro will perform well with that codec? Again you need to try and see.

Option 3 might give you the most problems. Vegas Pro is very particular about what MP4 files it can edit smoothly and also, as you are aware, it is the lowest quality of the three choices for editing although 16MB AVC/H.264 is Blu-ray quality so it's not that bad.

I would use Option 1 as long as Vegas Pro doesn't have a problem editing the files.

~jr

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http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Jean-Pierre Desrochers
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 9, 2016 at 8:10:16 pm

I'll try the first option..
Thanks for your useful comments !
JP

J-P Desrochers
Quebec, Canada


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John Rofrano
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 10, 2016 at 11:49:57 am

You're welcome. It's always best to render each and see how smoothly Vegas Pro can edit them because some .TS files edit fine while others have problems but, in general, a .TS should be fine.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Aaron Star
Re: Encoding choices inside Vmix while recording for Vegas Pro 13
on Apr 10, 2016 at 9:33:32 pm

I would try John's suggestions for easy of use and editing in Vegas 1st.

Here are some other things I noticed:

1 - FFMPEG - What other file formats are available? With FFMPEG you maybe able to set the encoder to produce .MP4 and even intra frame mp4.
The encoder company may have already determined what formats work the best with their hardware.

2 - AVI - What other codec options are available for .AVI? If Cineform is available, this might produce good editable content for Vegas.

3 - .MP4 - Hardware encoding to .MP4 might produce the least overhead to your gaming machine, leaving more resources to the game. Adjusting the bit to 22-30+mbs, then run a short capture test, investigate the file properties with 'MediaInfo." The file should be Constant frame rate, not variable. Some capture devices do not produce compliant video formats. For 60P work the bitrate would be double the 30P rate. In the end the trade off of system load vs editing abilities in Vegas, will have to be tested by yourself.

4 - Transcode - You can always transcode the capture media in Vegas to an editing codec like Cineform, HD-CAM, XDCAM-ex, or XAVC-Intra which will add time to your editing. During the transcode process, you can re-encode only the parts you intend to post or "selects" to be edited inti the timeline. Thus reducing the amount of transcode time. Working the above codecs will be the most stable for compositing, effects, or overlay type transistions. Also Vegas GPU assist works the best with the above codecs.


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