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Matthew Jeschke
Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 28, 2016 at 6:52:33 pm

I'm trying to do color grading... Was pretty stoked to start playing with Davinci Resolve. I guess you get what you pay for though. The software seems to have a lot of hidden bugs (GUI controls inadvertently lock out, it cannot find clips sometimes, etc. etc. etc.)

Is there a good workflow... set of plugins... or 3rd party software that works with Vegas? I've been looking at hitfilm to accent my toolkit, does that have good color grading tools?

Any suggestions? Thanks!

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I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

Some of my work can be seen at,
http://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/
http://www.keystoaz.com/

PS. It's an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment :)


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Roger Bansemer
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 28, 2016 at 7:24:54 pm

I've been color grading our PBS series for years now just using the Vegas plugins which are in this order:
Levels, color corrector, color corrector(secondary) and Color curves.

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Matthew Jeschke
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 28, 2016 at 7:52:52 pm

What codec are you using for your clips?

My challenge I'm facing is I do basically run and gun shoots for online home tours. When I shoot the footage (currently with canon 5dmkii) it's very difficult to get matched color between the rooms, inside and outside the home.

However, I find Vegas doesn't seem handle many of the more robust codecs like avid, pro-res, or CinemaDNG.

PS. Forgive my novice, everything is self taught off university youtube. I'd like to upgrade my hardware to encode in better codecs than these DSLR cameras handle out of the box. Hacked the 5d with magic lantern and toying with RAW shoots to get familiar.

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I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

Some of my work can be seen at,
http://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/
http://www.keystoaz.com/

PS. It's an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment :)


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Roger Bansemer
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 28, 2016 at 8:33:42 pm

Vegas Pro has a Color Match plugin that works very well. You might try that. I think there's some tutorials on it on Youtube.

Roger Bansemer - PaintingAndTravel.com


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Russ Froze
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 2:19:44 am

Hi, I have been editing prores hq 422 and dnxhd 422 both 10 bit from atomos recorders in vegas Pro for some time and even now I'm editing 4k from a Samurai recorder on an older 6 core AMD chip. It's far from the lightning fast but it works. And yes DNG or CDNG from Magic Lantern natively in Vegas Pro. Download and install BlackMagic Design Desktop Video you will have to do a search for it at the site. This will install a BMD codec that reads prores and DNXHD
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/ca/support
As for Cdng you will need to install Adobe DNG Codec 2.0
https://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5495
Although Vegas will open dng files after install of the Adobe DNG Codec, it is cpu intensive to edit raw files on a timeline unless you have a really super machine.
Any questions, feel free to ask.
Russ Froze


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Matthew Jeschke
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 4:55:57 am

Ross thanks a million for the tips! I'm 75% of the way there... I see that vegas still will not accepted the ProRes rendered proxies :/

I have Windows 10 machine with:

-Davinci Resolve 12,
-Vegas Pro 13,
-Installed the Adobe DNG codec 2.0
-Installed BlackMagic Design Desktop Video 10.0 (allows me to playback some clips but not ProRes).

Any ideas?

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I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

Some of my work can be seen at,
http://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/
http://www.keystoaz.com/

PS. It's an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment :)


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Matthew Jeschke
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 5:17:29 am

Never mind upon closer inspection I noticed the Davenci Resolve rendered clips now work in Vegas but windows doesn't have codecs to play them otherwise. I think this works for editing :) Thanks!!!!

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I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

Some of my work can be seen at,
http://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/
http://www.keystoaz.com/

PS. It's an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment :)


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Russ Froze
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 5:59:16 am

[Matthew Jeschke] "windows doesn't have codecs to play them otherwise"

Windows Media Player does not have access to the Quicktime Player codec. If Quicktime is installed then quicktime will play the prores files. Media Player will not and it is doubtful it ever will.
Russ Froze


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Russ Froze
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 5:46:53 am

Ok, I'm sorry to say I have not upgraded to Win 10 for the reason that many of my peers have issues on the Win 10 platform. So until a stable version is released I'll stay with win 7. That said it begs the question of the Quicktime player installed on the Win 10 machine. Mov files are readable by windows via the Quicktime player which is problematic by Apple refusing to grant the 64 bit licence to Microsoft or perhaps Microsoft is not willing to pay the price for the licence to Apple, some information I am not privy to. The point being that I too had issues with prores before installing Quicktime. I began by installing the free Quicktime player being careful not to install ITunes.
Russ Froze


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Matthew Jeschke
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 6:06:47 am

That's a good tip. Don't believe I have the player on there...

Curious, my next challenge is grading the footage... or at least getting a baseline / starting point where I can use LUTs. Do you know of any for the 5dmii? I've not seen too many googling (perhaps I'm an ignoramus).

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I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

Some of my work can be seen at,
http://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/
http://www.keystoaz.com/

PS. It's an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment :)


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Russ Froze
Re: Color grading workflow for Vegas Pro?
on Jan 29, 2016 at 7:16:26 am

I'm not certain but I think Resolve 12 has a 5D setting. But if your serious about grading in Vegas, the ACES approach is what the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences has set down as a standard. There is a really good tutorial by Jacob Balazer who not only shows you how, but also supplies you with what is needed in Vegas to achieve correct results.
At the very least you should be familiar with the standard set down by the Academy. The tutorial can be found at http://www.jbalazer.com/aces-in-sony-vegas#TOC-ACES-and-ACEScc-Intro-and-Tu...

Russ Froze


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