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brian langtry
4k video
on Oct 19, 2015 at 11:08:08 am

hi,
I appear to be unable to get a definitive answers to what seems to be 2 fairly simple questions! My questions are-
1. "can I edit 4k clips on Vegas 12pro which retain the enhanced quality that the medium provides?"
2. "can DVD architect work in 4k?"


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John Rofrano
Re: 4k video
on Oct 19, 2015 at 12:23:47 pm

[brian langtry] " "can I edit 4k clips on Vegas 12pro which retain the enhanced quality that the medium provides?""
Yes, you can edit and deliver 4K with Vegas Pro 12.0.
[brian langtry] ""can DVD architect work in 4k?""
No. DVD Architect supports SD and HD but not Ultra HD.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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brian langtry
Re: 4k video
on Oct 19, 2015 at 5:52:49 pm

hi john
thank you so much for the info. i did find an article on creative cow which was very useful. I did not realise that 4k files were so big - only 50 minutes film on a 128gb card? guess i'll stick with HD and hope ultra HD mporphs into something which which is less hungry. Many thanks for your comments very grateful.


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John Rofrano
Re: 4k video
on Oct 19, 2015 at 9:17:26 pm

Yea, I don't think people realize what they are getting into when they buy a 4K camera. It's requires a lot of data and processing power to edit. Glad I could help.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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John Laird
Re: 4k video
on Oct 19, 2015 at 9:55:20 pm

I agree with John on the sheer size of 4K footage. But I have found the latest version of Vegas 13 does a great job with a descent computer and a good card like the R9 series. But the problem here is no one can view them on most computers unless they have a 4K video card and monitor. Not quite ready for prime time. Again the 4K footage plays back awesome on a 4K system. One more item is, if you use the 4K footage as your source file and render the final output to 1920 by 1080 the higher detail of the 4K source footage gives you a better render than a normal res file. {more detail}.

John



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Scott Francis
Re: 4k video
on Oct 20, 2015 at 11:54:06 pm

Depends on the codec of the 4K. My GH4 gives me about 2+hrs on a 128GB card. Vegas 13 works great editing it and there is just so many more pixels to work with for zooms and pans in post...

Xavier (Scott) Francis
Mind's Eye Audio/Video Productions


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Russ Froze
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:57:32 am

I concur with Xavier (Scott) Francis. My findings are the same and I doubt I will go back to HD acquisition. Capture 4k and render to HD works great.
Russ Froze


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John Laird
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 1:24:15 am
Last Edited By John Laird on Oct 21, 2015 at 3:31:57 am

I couldn't agree more. The clip I am including was captured with a phantom 3 4K The clips were 4K and rendered to 1440 by 1080 with the wmv codec. The quality is outstanding as it is only 3 meg a sec. Yes it's not perfect , but I feel for the size it looks great. I also rendered it as a mp4 at 1920 by 1080. That looks superb. Way too big for most folks on the net though.

http://www.movingmoment.net/Newfield.wmv

John



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Russ Froze
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 1:48:28 am

Thank you for sharing and giving us a glimpse of a part of your world. John
Russ Froze


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John Rofrano
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:29:09 pm

[John Laird] "http://www.movingmoment.net/Newfield.wmv"
If you want people using Mobile devices (which outnumber Desktop devices for web browsing today) or on Mac's to watch your videos, you should encode them as MP4 and not the proprietary Windows Media format.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Russ Froze
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 2:10:37 pm

[John Rofrano] "Mobile devices"

John Rofrano has a valid argument about transcoding to a win exclusive format. These days phones, tablets alone outnumber desktops and don't alienate our OS (mac) brethren. Simple math, Apple has sold 700 million I Phones and 25 million Apple TV sets? By not transcoding to MP4 there is a loss of 725 million potential viewers.
Ruus Froze


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Aaron Star
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 8:30:14 pm

After shooting years of 35mm and 16mm and having that material conformed to Standard Def. Then shooting hours of edited material in HD. The whole issue for me comes down to future proofing your camera original. That way your material remains contemporary the longest. I have tons of camera work that can no longer go on a demo reel just because it was mastered in SD and HD, when now producers and directors want to see what your 4K footage is like. Which to me has always been stupid, since it will look just the other material just sharper.


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John Laird
Re: 4k video
on Oct 21, 2015 at 8:31:19 pm
Last Edited By John Laird on Oct 21, 2015 at 8:32:31 pm

John and Russ,,

I understand what you are saying, but 100 mb or 400 mb makes a big difference on who can see the files and bandwidth. A lot of folks out there are running XP machines or even Vista and they don't like mp4 files. Here is the video as an mp4.

http://www.movingmoment.net/Newfield.mp4

John



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John Rofrano
Re: 4k video
on Oct 24, 2015 at 3:55:13 pm
Last Edited By John Rofrano on Oct 25, 2015 at 4:28:02 pm

[John Laird] "A lot of folks out there are running XP machines or even Vista and they don't like mp4 files."
It all depends on who you think your audience is. If you would rather appeal to luddites and alienate an entire new generation of viewers, then keep publishing outdated, proprietary windows only technology. XP users can find a player that works with MP4 if they want to. Tablet and SmartPhone users cannot find viewers for old windows technology. So it's a choice between people who are too lazy to view your videos, vs people can cannot under any circumstance, see your videos. Like I said, it all depends on who you think your viewing audience is.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Russ Froze
Re: 4k video
on Oct 24, 2015 at 5:03:22 pm

[John Laird] "A lot of folks out there are running XP machines or even Vista and they don't like mp4 files"

It is a John Rofrano states and as I have eluded to. Filmmakers are not the only ones with the dilemma. Look at the plight of web designers who wish to reach the maximum viewers. In order to do so a site must be created for two types of OS on phones, two types of tablet OS, TV, desktops and all their various browsers. This is why standards like DVD and Blue Ray have been implemented, it is simply a means of communication between devices and for web video the standard at present it mp4.

Why VHS, DVD, Blue Ray and mp4 you ask, the answer is as simple as the world's oldest profession which dictates formats from paper dimensions to video dimensions and delivery format.
Russ Froze


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