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jenny gold
Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 23, 2015 at 6:47:42 pm

I wanted to get the letter box look effect as a final video for website page and youtube..... which quite a few folk are doing and seen a lot lately in tv adverts etc.
I Just want the letterbox effect to be vertical as in bars top and bottom and keeps the width full...

****I know you can do this in pan and crop and adjust height however I do need to apply transitions effects and color correction and was wondering best way to approach this i.e. color corrections to entire clip THEN set pan and crop when done and then edit split each clip and whatever ever effects transitions

*****What size height setting should I use if done via pan and crop for letterbox look

OR

iI it better to do it by first create a project setting to give me the bars top and bottom if so what setting size please ( my orginal video camera footage is 1920 1080)I can then add the video and do a match ratio output over in crop and pan to ensure size match.

and what should I THEN render to once effects etc edits have been done?

The thing is I am also doing a few letter box looks to videos and will be adding maybe a few different video media clips to time line


Please give me some pointers many thanks!
Jenny


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John Rofrano
Re: Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 24, 2015 at 12:26:35 am

[jenny gold] "Is it better to do it by first create a project setting to give me the bars top and bottom if so what setting size please ( my orginal video camera footage is 1920 1080)I can then add the video and do a match ratio output over in crop and pan to ensure size match. "
Yes, The secret is to set your project up for the wide screen ratio that you want first and then let the render add the black bars for you later.

First you must decide what cinematic aspect ratio your are going after. Let's say you want to use one of the American cinemas projection ratios of 2.39:1. To obtain the project size you divide the width of your media 1920 by 2.39 and get 803.3472. Since we can't have fractional pixel we round down to 803 and that should be the height of your project. Open your project properties and change them to 1920x803 and you will have a nice 2.39:1 cinematic project. Do all of your editing like this. When you are ready to render, select a template that is 1920x1080 and Vegas Pro will happily add true back bars to the top and bottom of your frame just as you wanted.

~jr

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jenny gold
Re: Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 24, 2015 at 8:47:57 am

Many thanks John for jumping in and explaining - I had spotted one of your posts on this quite a while back re Letter box effect look and doing all effects editing etc rather than pan and crop to get black bar letterbox approach

One thing with final render settings


If rendering to 1920 x1080 it pulls in the actual width the right and left side and not quite full screen Width and gap when viewed with whatever player. My render template was MP4 (AVC/AAC)

1280 x720 was perfect (template used MP4 (AVC/AAC) great all around I get the bar top and bottom effect and full width which I want for render template I use of 1280 x720 which frankly all I need for youtube and website pages

****I was wondering why the larger final render of 1920 x1080 one did not go full width?

Jenny gold


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John Rofrano
Re: Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 24, 2015 at 11:14:19 am

[jenny gold] "I was wondering why the larger final render of 1920 x1080 one did not go full width?"
That is odd because both 1280x720 and 1920x1080 are a perfect 16:9. You can try a test where you make your project 1920x804 instead of 1920x803 (remember we rounded down?) and render to see if rounding up instead of down makes a difference.

~jr

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jenny gold
Re: Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 24, 2015 at 3:35:27 pm

Hi John
I tried for the 1920x1080 final render as you suggested project setting 804 still the same narrowing of width *****infact I even did 820 and more same issue... yet the 1280 x720 one as explained works great!

Perhaps I have something in my final render template settings maybe creating this issue ?
I am doing the usual to the media clip when added to time line in pan and crop match output aspect

anymore thoughts?
Jenny


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John Rofrano
Re: Need to get letterbox film look best approach
on Sep 24, 2015 at 8:58:24 pm

Maybe there is some setting in your 1080 template that's wrong. I would use the built-in Sony templates and see how they look like the MainConcept AVC template "Internet HD 1080..."

~jr

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