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Faraz Mirza
Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:00:51 am

Hello,

I am trying to render a 1 hour video on Sony Vegas Pro 12 (build 485 64-bit), and it always crashes when the video is around 11% or 12% complete rendering (1 out of 8 hours needed to render the video in 720p).

Initially, I was getting problem reports that said "Vegas Pro has stopped working", and then the only option would be to debug it. I went online to find solutions, changed some of my settings in the program (i.e. turned GPU acceleration of video processing off, changed the maximum number of rendering threads to 2), just tried any and every solution that might stop this nightmare.

Just before my 4th attempt, I watched a video that advised me to delete the ErrorReportClient.Exe and PRSConfig.Exe files from the Vegas 12 folder in Program Files, and that this would resolve my predicament. After deleting it and another hour of trying to render the video, another box popped up that said "An error has occured during the current operation. An exception has occurred". I pressed "Details" for more information, but it was blank. Again, I was forced to debug the rendering.

I don't know what to do or where to go from here, I'd really appreciate if an expert could offer some assistance (John Rofrano was very helpful last time, but I welcome any help that will resolve my issue). Whether I need to reinstall Vegas Pro 12 or change some settings around, I'm willing to go the distance; I just need to get this video rendered as soon as possible.


Some additional info:

-My computer runs on an Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 driver.

-Perhaps one factor that is contributing to this is that my hour-long video utilizes BCC 8 Plugins throughout the whole video (specifically the beat reactor), although I don't see why that should cause it to quit rendering and debug, in lieu of taking more time to render.

Best Always
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 1:10:47 am

[Faraz Mirza] "Sony Vegas Pro 12 (build 485 64-bit)"... I don't know what to do or where to go from here"
I would start by updating Vegas Pro 12.0 to build 770! You missed build 563, 670, 710, 714, 726, and 770. Which contains 79 bug fixes that your version doesn't have. Maybe one of them will fix your problem?

~jr

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Faraz Mirza
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 4:06:07 am

Hello John,
I updated to Vegas Pro 12 Build 770, and unfortunately its the same issue.

The rendering crashed at 12%, a problem report popped up saying "Vegas Pro has stopped working".
In fact, it took longer to reach 12% this time.

Rather than the usual one hour the previous 4 times, it took an hour and 40 minutes this time around.
What is the next possible solution I should seek? Also, on a side (and less important) note, is there any way to speed up the rendering process? It just keeps adding on hours and hours, and I'm wondering if there's not quicker way for this video to be processed.

Best Always,
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 12:01:01 pm

Can you render in sections? Create a region every 10 minutes and render the regions to Sony MXF. Then place all of the MXF files into a new project and try and render to your final format.

I've had Vegas Pro stop rendering on hour long projects and that's how I get around it. I don't know why Vegas Pro does this, but it's very frustrating.

~jr

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Faraz Mirza
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 4:01:56 pm

John,

So the issue here is I tried to render one of five 10-minute segments in MXP,
and it said it would take 5 hours for completion. I left it for 30 minutes and came back to it only being on 11%, so I just cancelled the operation.

It just seemed a little unreasonable to me.. I don't think it makes sense for a 10-minute video to take 5 hours to render.. could you offer any tips on reducing time, or maybe another solution altogether?

I'm perfectly alright doing a long, 10-hour single render session, rather than five 5-hour MXP render sessions, followed by another who-knows-how-long render session to put all those MXP segments together.

I suppose I should mention I'm trying to retain high quality for this video, so I've been trying to render the MXP segments in HD422 1920x1080-60i 50 Mbps, as I want the final product to be HD 720p.

If you have any alternate suggestions on rendering in other MXP outputs that might reduce rendering time while maintaining the high quality I want in the finished product, I could definitely give those a try (or if you have any other alternate approaches in general).

Thanks for bearing with me, I do appreciate your help.

Best Always,
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 4:31:41 pm

It's odd that Sony MXF would take that long to render on your computer. Vegas Pro usually renders quickly to this format. What are your computer specs?

What were you originally rendering to? Maybe use that format in 10 minute increments,

~jr

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Faraz Mirza
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:10:37 pm

I was originally rendering to HD 720p MP4, I'm about to try that for the 10 minute increments. I'll let you know what happens with that as soon as possible (should be within the next couple of hours).

In the meantime, here are my computer specs:

Operating System: Windows 8 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3337U CPU @ 1.80GHz (4 CPUs), ~1.8GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB (7.89 GB usable)
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
Memory: 8192MB RAM

Best Always,
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:21:00 pm

[Faraz Mirza] "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3337U CPU @ 1.80GHz (4 CPUs), ~1.8GHz"
There's your problem right there. You have a 2 core CPU at 1.8Ghz. That's barely adequate for word processing and totally inadequate for video editing and rendering. Even Sony recommends at least a 2 GHz multi-core processor and their specs are usually bare minimum.

You need to get use to extremely long render times of get a new computer. I wouldn't get anything less that a Core i7 4-Core 2.8Ghz or better especially if you are working with MPEG4 and using BCC 8 plug-ins.

This has nothing to do with why Vegas Pro is crashing but it doesn't explain the long render times for processing Sony MXF.

~jr

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Faraz Mirza
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:44:47 pm

I see, I wasn't aware these issues existed with my specs.
Unfortunately I don't think a new computer is in the cards for me any time soon.

I'm in the process of rendering one of my five segments in MP4 format, its 12 minutes in and 11% complete, while ETA is calculated 1 hour 36 minutes, so that's definitely a vast improvement over the MXF rendering.

Do you have any guesses what might be causing that problem with MFX files?

Best Always,
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 28, 2015 at 6:15:04 pm

[Faraz Mirza] "Do you have any guesses what might be causing that problem with MFX files?"
Well aside from the fact that your processor just isn't fast enough for the encoding algorithms, Sony MXF might take advantage of GPU encoding and I understand that you turned GPU off to gain stability. You might want to turn it on and try Sony MXF again and see if it goes faster.

~jr

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Faraz Mirza
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 29, 2015 at 5:29:33 am

Hello John,

So I've tried rendering the 10-minute segment in HD 720p mp4 again, this time without cancelling it just to see if it would at least finish the rendering.

After 1 hour 40 min it crashed at 48%. It seems I'm running out of options; the render time seems to be a less of an issue than Vegas Pro 12 itself crashing all the time.

Do you think upgrading to Vegas Pro 13 might resolve any of these issues? Are there any other options for me, any particular settings I can toy around with in the program that will make a difference in this case?

A new computer with better specs, as great as it would be, isn't really an option for me right now.

Please do let me know what my final options are.
If there's nothing else that can be done, I suppose I'll have to consider rendering in lower quality (although I really don't want to).

Best Always,
Faraz


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 12 Rendering/Crashing issues
on Jul 29, 2015 at 1:48:26 pm

[Faraz Mirza] "Do you think upgrading to Vegas Pro 13 might resolve any of these issues?"
You can certainly download a 30-day trial and see if it helps before spending any money. I don't know if it will help.

Maybe try rendering to Sony YUV. This format should be less CPU intensive because it uses less compression but it produces much larger files. You would then take the larger file and render it to 720p MPEG4. The Sony YUV template can be found under Video for Windows.

~jr

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