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Rick Hughes
Which video format will retain best quality
on May 20, 2015 at 2:37:49 pm
Last Edited By Rick Hughes on May 20, 2015 at 2:49:17 pm

In a separate post explained I could not get Movie Studio Platinum Suite 12 to accept the ts files ... it would lose audio.

I have now after many days of effort found a way to extract an audio file that MSP will accept
The original source files obviously have an audio stream that MSP does not like.

The source video is: 1920 x 1080, 8 25 fps AVC

I have the option to use VideoRedo and save the output as video only ........ which format will give me the least loss ..the use will be to get it into MSP for eventual creation of a DVD

mpeg-2 - elementary steam (.m2v)
mpeg-2 - matroska (.mkv)
mpeg2/mp4
h.264/mp4 (.mp4)
mpeg-2 elementary streams
h.264 /m2ts (.m2ts)
h.264 matroska (.mkv)


I did try the mpeg-2 elementary streams, assuming I could use just the video component - but the resultant *.h264 file was seen by MSP to import


I'm assuming H264 is the best option ... but how to get it into MSP


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on May 20, 2015 at 4:18:19 pm
Last Edited By Steve Rhoden on May 20, 2015 at 4:19:38 pm

Wish i could help, but im totally unfamiliar with which formats Movie Studio
Platinum
can ingest. But to be on the safe side i would say
mpeg2/mp4
h.264/mp4
There's gonna be re-compression anyway you take it.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


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Rick Hughes
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on May 20, 2015 at 5:33:46 pm

The spec for MSP12 says it will accept for import:
Import: AA3, AAC, AIFF, AVI, BMP, CDA, FLAC, GIF, JPEG, MP3, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, MVC, OGG, OMA, PCA, PNG, QuickTime, RealMedia, SFA, SND, W64, WAV, WDP, WMA, WMV


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John Rofrano
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on May 22, 2015 at 10:48:35 pm

All of those formats are lossy. I would go for which one will edit most easily. I would try:

h.264/mp4 (.mp4)
h.264 /m2ts (.m2ts)

BTW, I don't know where you got the .TS files from, but have an older Hauppauge HD PVR and Movie Studio 12.0 edits the .TS files from that capture device without any problems. So Movie Studio Platinum can definitely edit .TS files (because I've done it).

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Rick Hughes
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on May 23, 2015 at 7:30:17 pm

The ts files are a download direct from from Humax HDR Fox T2

From over the air broadcast of HD PAL TV

All attempts to get the files into MSp either resulted in a files that crashed MSP . or had no audio.
I have finally managed to get the files into MSP .... by running them through VideRedo with a custom template ...

1) Recoded the 5.1 AAC audio from original format used by the broadcaster in a transport stream to AAC non transport stream

2) Changed the muxing from a transport stream to an MP4 format.

3) Removed the 2nd audio stream from the output file - leaving the 6ch track


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John Rofrano
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on May 24, 2015 at 5:38:01 pm

Glad you found a solution. Too bad it requires re-encoding. I tried tsMuxeR but I couldn't get it to remux a stream that Movie Studio could handle. I guess re-endoing is the only way.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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John Norton
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on Oct 14, 2016 at 12:47:57 pm

I found that Vegas 14 still doesn't load the ts files I use, from Technomate Sat receiver.

I use ffmpeg to deal with it. Usually you may only need 1 audio stream and 1 video stream.
There are sometimes multiple audio streams, and depending on the tv channel, or source material, the audio you need may not always be in the same position, video position varies also, positions starting obviously at 0. For my needs, I then convert 1 video and 1 audio stream, remapped to another .ts file.

Not what you need perhaps, but I then used ffmpeg to convert the remapped second .ts file to h264 .mp4 file, the quality set by ffmpeg CRF value. The output quality can be set from low to no loss, not recommended as no loss may have compatibility issues.


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John Norton
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on Oct 14, 2016 at 12:54:01 pm

Can't see an edit post option.

"For my needs, I then convert 1 video and 1 audio stream, remapped to another .ts file."

Should have read .. For my needs, I then remap1 video and 1 audio stream, to another .ts file.
No quality loss.


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Scott Francis
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on Oct 14, 2016 at 1:12:07 pm

I use encoders from here:
http://hypedphoto.com/ezencoder.cfm

They did give a false positive on a couple antivirus softwares, but they are quite safe. I have used them a myriad of times and it has saved and helped me on numerous. Some of them are lossless as well.

Hope this helps!

Xavier (Scott) Francis
Mind's Eye Audio/Video Productions


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John Norton
Re: Which video format will retain best quality
on Oct 14, 2016 at 3:07:20 pm

Thanks.


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