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Stewart Bourke
Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 3:18:49 pm

SVP 12, BCC9

I have an issue when cross-fading between two events which have been chroma-keyed.

I use a solid-black with a fade to fade of a chroma-keyed track and the track below it - otherwise the fade does not 'look right' - i.e. the chroma-keyed track becomes transparent as it fades and the lower track fades through.

I want to cross-fade between the two keyed clips, but when I overlap them the overlap interferes with the chroma-key, and so you see some of the green-screen.

The problem with using solid-blacks and then fading them is that it blocks everything below it out, loosing any cross-fade.

The only thing I can think of at this stage is to render them out as separate tracks chroma-keyed and then reimport them, but that seems like a very long-winded way around..

Any suggestions appreciated.

Thank you

STBO


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John Rofrano
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 5:15:40 pm

[Stewart Bourke] "I have an issue when cross-fading between two events which have been chroma-keyed."
I'm not seeing this behavior. Inherently ChromaKey uses two tracks. Are you sure that you are overlapping both tracks with other media? In other words, you should be cross fading 4 events, 2 on each track (i.e., the keyed clip and the background x2).

I just chroma keyed a clip using BCC Chroma Key and I created a transition with another chroma keyed clip and the transition was fine. Then I created a transition with some generated media on two tracks and again the transition was fine. I did not see the green screen on either transition.

~jr

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Stewart Bourke
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 5:25:10 pm

John,

Thanks for the reply. I did make sure I was cross-fading both sets of tracks. It is a bit difficult to describe, so I give below a picture which shows the chroma-key 'interference'

I have put the cursor directly in the middle of the cross-fade. You can see the green-screen of the image I am fading up appearing over the clip I am fading out.



I am using BCC 9 Chroma-studio added as a 2:1 composite.

Thanks

Stewart


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Stewart Bourke
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 5:45:27 pm

John,

Re-reading your reply I saw the comment ' I created a transition with another chroma keyed clip'.

Is this something different to just dragging the start of the second event over the end of the first event to create a cross-fade, or should I be doing something more 'formal'?

Thanks

Stewart


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John Rofrano
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 6:58:55 pm

[Stewart Bourke] "Is this something different to just dragging the start of the second event over the end of the first event to create a cross-fade, or should I be doing something more 'formal'?"
No, I inaccurately used the term "transition" but I really only created a cross-fade like you did. I think the 2:1 composite is what's causing your problem.

~jr

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John Rofrano
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 6:57:12 pm

[Stewart Bourke] "...added as a 2:1 composite."
I believe that might be your problem. 2:1 composite affects the entire track and thus all of the clips on the track. I know you probably did this to use light wrap but try it as an FX on the event and I believe the problem will go away.

~jr

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Stewart Bourke
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 21, 2014 at 9:52:25 pm
Last Edited By Stewart Bourke on Dec 21, 2014 at 9:57:46 pm

John,

I never thought to try that - thank you- that looks like it did the trick.

The only issue I have is the presets - presets saved in 2:1 do not show up when you add the effect to the event - what a pain!!

The lighting wasn't that great - so there had been a lot of adjustments made to many parameters to get a good key

*EDIT* - strike that - presets saved within the Vegas preset option do not show up - BCC presets do - you can save and load them - all working now.

Thanks for your help.

Stewart


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John Rofrano
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 22, 2014 at 9:08:03 pm

I'm glad that worked and as you figured out, if you save the preset from with BCC it will always be available regardless of how you apply it.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Stewart Bourke
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 22, 2014 at 9:18:05 pm

John,

I have to say your tutorial on the BCC9 chroma-studio was a lifesaver. Absolutely amazing how poor keys can be fixed.

Thanks

Stewart


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John Rofrano
Re: Cross-fading tracks which are chroma-keyed.
on Dec 22, 2014 at 9:25:52 pm

Yea, everyone demonstrates with perfect footage... I wanted to use something difficult to really show what can be accomplished. I'm glad you found that useful. ;-)

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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