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Bob Mark
Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 19, 2014 at 7:25:37 pm

I am trying to render out about a minute of footage for a long distance client. The footage was shot in DVCPro 100. I rendered out the clips as P2 AVC-intra 100. The client's editor says the folder file structure is wrong and he can't play it. Any suggestions? I'm using Vegas Pro 12.
Thanks

Bob


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 19, 2014 at 7:37:08 pm

I would first try to get detailed specifics on the format that works
well in his workflow, or else it can be a back and forth frenzy.

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Bob Mark
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 19, 2014 at 7:53:13 pm

Thanks. That's what I did and they said Sony MXF, so I'm keeping fingers crossed. Any idea why they could use the camera folder on HD, but not the P2 render from Vegas?

Thanks.

Bob


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John Rofrano
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 20, 2014 at 11:31:49 pm

[Bob Mark] "Any idea why they could use the camera folder on HD, but not the P2 render from Vegas?"
I'm guessing that the software they are using is looking for a P2 card and when it doesn't see the file structure it can't find the video. Final Cut Pro X is like this. It cannot read an AVCHD file from your hard drive but if it's still in the original card structure it reads it just fine. Just to repeat... point FCP X to and AVCHD folder and it will ingest all of the MTS files inside of it... point it to a single MTS file on your hard drive and it will grey it out and refuse to import it! I have no idea how programmers could do something so ridiculous but apparently they did. :(

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Steve Rhoden
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 21, 2014 at 12:56:53 pm

Curious as to which editing software they are using.

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Bob Mark
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 21, 2014 at 4:13:10 pm
Last Edited By Bob Mark on Dec 21, 2014 at 4:16:36 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. The file folder structure made by the camera and made by Vegas looked almost the same, but they said they could not use the one out of Vegas.

The P2 folder structure from the camera shooting DVCPro 100 is: CONTENTS folder then sub folders: AUDIO, AVCLIP, CLIP, ICON, PROXY, VIDEO, VOICE.

The P2 from Vegas uses AVC-intra and the folder structure is almost the same, but it did not have the folder AVClIP. The editor said the Vegas stuff I sent was not the right folder structure and he could not use it. Strange, I could actually play the video and audio in Vegas by just importing the video clip from the VIDEO folder.

This is for a network show that normally uses Sony cameras. When they hire freelancers like me, they will accept other cams if they are 4:2:2 full raster 1080i and 50mb or higher.

I believe they are using an AVID system. They had no trouble with the cam footage on a HD, but the stuff out of Vegas did not work.

I wound up sending Sony MXF, which they were used to and it worked fine.

Thanks for your replies.

Bob


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John Rofrano
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 21, 2014 at 6:53:55 pm

[Bob Mark] "Strange, I could actually play the video and audio in Vegas by just importing the video clip from the VIDEO folder."
Not strange when you consider that some NLE's expect a specific camera card structure and don't open video files with out it. I agree it's strange that the programmers decided to do this because there is no good reason for this behavior.
[Bob Mark] "I wound up sending Sony MXF, which they were used to and it worked fine."
Glad this worked. I find that using Sony MXF with the HD422 1920x1080-60i 50Mbps template is widely accepted and the best format for Vegas Pro editors to deliver for broadcast.

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Bob Mark
Re: Rendering out to P2 format problem
on Dec 21, 2014 at 7:28:09 pm

That's exactly what I sent them, John. :>)

Bob


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