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Robert Engle
Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 16, 2014 at 1:02:21 am

I just got this program. I have a mini Camera that I mount on model airplanes. The file format is AVI and I tried to drag a clip into the timeline and it wont take. Tries many with the AVI and wont work. MY other files work fine. How do I get this to work or how can I change the file format to something else. Sony didn't have a clue they read off a script I think. Pleaase help. I bought this software to use with my air videos and now Im at a standstill.
Please Help.
Bob


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Graham Bernard
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 16, 2014 at 6:47:12 am

[Robert Engle] "MY other files work fine. How do I get this to work or how can I change the file format to something else."
Robert, Vegas can deal with a whole load of differing types of Media, but on this occasion you may well need to Transcode that AVI into an AVI or MP4 or MPEG that Vegas can deal with.

Grazie

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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 16, 2014 at 12:36:10 pm

Ok if its already ready an AVI why would I convert intp the same AVI format or are there many kinds of AVI formats? If I need an MPEG what is the best to use? MP4? Also does the program do this or do I need to use another program? Please be specific as I am new to this stuff. Thanks a ton


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 16, 2014 at 4:54:17 pm

[Robert Engle] "Ok if its already ready an AVI why would I convert intp the same AVI format or are there many kinds of AVI formats?"
AVI is not a video "format". It's a file container that can contain many video "formats" know as CODECS.

What you need to do is install the codec that the AVI files requires. Download the free GSpot or MediaInfo utility and open the file with that and it will tell you what codec the file requires. I'm guessing that the manufacturer of the camera can give you the same information. Then go to the manufacturer of the codec and download and install it. That will allow Vegas to be able to work with the file.

One caveat, if you are using Vegas Pro 64-bit you must install the 64-bit version of the codec. If you are using Vegas Pro 32-bit you must install the 32-bit version of the codec. Finally, if you are using Vegas Pro 64-bit and there is no 64-bit version of the codec, you will need to use some other program to transcode the files into something Vegas Pro can edit.

~jr

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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 17, 2014 at 12:48:40 am

Ok if I need to convert them what is a good program to use? Should I stay away from Free downloads? Someone said try 'Total Video Converter" ? What do yout hink?
Thanks


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 17, 2014 at 1:39:33 am

[Robert Engle] "What do yout hink?"
I think you should find out what codec the video uses and install it before you worry about converting. AviDemux 2.5 is a good free converter if you want to use one.

~jr

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Graham Bernard
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 17, 2014 at 6:39:10 am

[John Rofrano] "I think you should find out what codec the video uses and install it before you worry about converting."
I agree. You/we need to know just what is going on within that AVI Format (Format = "The Microsoft AVI file format is a RIFF file specification used with applications that capture, edit, and play back audio-video sequences". Source Microsoft: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318189%28v=vs.85%...). If you DON'T install the appropriate CODEC for that AVI you are going to need to TRANSCODE again in the future. Having the CODEC for that AVI will mean you will or should have a seamless workflow.

My "invitation" to you to TRANSCODE was two-fold:
1] If this IS a one-off or maybe something you'd do very seldom or scarcely, then a Transcode could be a good workflow.

2] Installing an inappropriate or incorrect CODEC or worse from a CODEC PACK, could heap a whole load of hurt onto your PC and necessitate you needing to track down, isolate and removing unwanted CODECs.
The choice is yours. But whatever you do you MUST initially get MEDIA Info and determine just what that AVI is. Bring your results back here and we can ALL put our collective thinking-caps on and possibly assist you.

Grazie

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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 2:05:17 am

Ok you guys are way smarter than I am and Im also new to this. How do I find this out? What the Codecs are for the file? Going to the company that made the Mini Cam is out of the question its out of the country. I tried to upload a file but it is way to big. Maybe I can take a small part of it if that will help? Sorry guys lost here but keep helping if you can I really need to get this resolved.
Thank you to all, let me know.
Thanks Bob


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Graham Bernard
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 7:01:45 am
Last Edited By Graham Bernard on Dec 18, 2014 at 7:09:11 am

[Robert Engle] "Sorry guys lost here but keep helping if you can I really need to get this resolved."
Oh, Robert I hear you . . . .

OK, go to this site: http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo download and install MediaInfo. After installation you may need to reboot your PC, so reboot.

Once MI is installed, navigate to the Video File and RightClick on the Video File you wish to interrogate and choose the MediaInfo option in the drop down menu. Here you can see I've right clicked on one of my Canon XF300 MXF Files:-



And this is what I get:-


OK, next step, find what CODECS and Filters you already have installed on your PC. Please watch this YT video in using Windows Media Player to display your CODEC and Filter Info you have installed:-







So, what do I have? I now have a view of my installed CODECS and can confirm that the MXF file is correctly using the CODEC from my XF 300 Canon Camera:-



These steps will go a long way in you determining just WHAT is inside that FILE and what CODEC you'd need. If you DO have the correct CODEC then you should be able to open it. If you DON'T have the correct CODEC - well, it's obvious you may well not! - OR the CODEC that is required is beyond MediaInfo's grap or can be displayed OR Microsoft Media Player Information can't display it. In any event, these steps SHOULD get you further along the way - yeah?

Cheers

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 1:11:57 pm

[Robert Engle] "How do I find this out? What the Codecs are for the file?"
Like I already said, download GSpot or MediaInfo (as Graham pointed out) and open the file and see what codec is inside.

This is what GSpot looks like:



~jr

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Graham Bernard
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 3:03:32 pm

[John Rofrano] "Like I already said, download GSpot or MediaInfo (as Graham pointed out) and open the file and see what codec is inside."
I offered MediaInfo 'cos GSpot was coming back with telling me that my XF MXF CODEC isn't installed - when it obviously is.

And here's what I get ( discuss??):-



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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 4:33:49 pm

[Graham Bernard] "I offered MediaInfo 'cos GSpot was coming back with telling me that my XF MXF CODEC isn't installed - when it obviously is."
And I offered GSpot because Robert has an AVI file and GSpot works great with AVI files. I wouldn't expect it to work with MXF; it's primarily an AVI tool. ;-)

~jr

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Graham Bernard
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 4:46:35 pm

[John Rofrano] " I wouldn't expect it to work with MXF; it's primarily an AVI tool. ;-)"
Ah righto! Thanks John - I was wrong to think it WOULD read MXF files. Has G-Spot stopped being developed? If so . . pity . . . I really like the GUI.

Cheers

Graham

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 18, 2014 at 6:03:53 pm

[Graham Bernard] "Has G-Spot stopped being developed?"
Yes, but AVI is also a very old format. It's a case of the right tool for the right job.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 28, 2014 at 12:08:03 am

Sorry guys was very sick and just getting my head back on. Yes my AVIs work now thank you. I really like the program but ran into a small issue. Made a half hour mini movie with pictures spaced out in between movie clips. I have a picture I want to delete and did but ended up hitting the undue button because it messed up all my Automatic Crossfades. I had them at 5 seconds and it made them less and really messed other things up. So how do I simply delete a small picture and then move everything from the right side of my timeline to join to the left side without screwing things up? Thanks Graham and everyone else. Hope all of you had a great holiday.
Bob


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 28, 2014 at 1:26:31 pm

[Robert Engle] "So how do I simply delete a small picture and then move everything from the right side of my timeline to join to the left side without screwing things up?"
Turn on Auto Ripple (Ctrl + L), delete the picture, then turn Auto Ripple off again. That should ripple everything on the right of the picture to the left and close the gap without ruining any of the transition timing.

~jr

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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 28, 2014 at 2:44:49 pm
Last Edited By Robert Engle on Dec 28, 2014 at 2:50:32 pm

Ok now im in real trouble. I went to try to Ripple and when I went to open my project file it gave me a pop up window that said stuff about picture files that could not be found.There were several choices to choose.

1. Search for missing file
2. Specify a new location or replacement file
3. Ignore missing file and leave it offline
4. Ignore all missing files and leave offline

I searched and nothing happened and then chose to leave all files offline and then my project opened and where the pictures were it says Media offline. I can see the spot where it was and my transitions but no pictures? Did I mess something up when I saved it again? OMG I am in a complete panic I spent 3 days on this project and countless time. It was my first project. I had opened and closed it many times but then added new pictures. Pictures were from a camera and a few from an IPhone but all were on my computer and I watched them playback 10 times. What can I do to get these ONLINE. I CANT DO THIS PROJECT ALL OVER AGAIN !!!!!!!
HELP HEP HEP HELP

Also I tried the drop down menu that says to take media offline and it wont work????


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 28, 2014 at 5:00:11 pm

There should be a file in your project folder with an extension of .veg.bak . This is the last backup of your project. Try copying this to something.veg and see if it will open without any problems.

One other thing to try is to go to the Project Media window and find the picture that is off-line and right-click and Replace it with the picture file on your hard drive.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 28, 2014 at 9:54:30 pm

Ok EXACTLY where is the folder that has the back up VEG file? I started deleting in the time line where it said the Media was not there and bringing in new pictures again but what a pain. Is it possible if you move the pictures after working on the project, i mean moving the location within your computer, and there in a different location could that cause an issue when Vegas is opened ? My other practice movies were fine and the pictures haven't moved so do you think this caused the issue? THANKS John. R


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Pro 13 Question
on Dec 29, 2014 at 12:47:11 am

[Robert Engle] "Ok EXACTLY where is the folder that has the back up VEG file?"
In the same folder as the original veg file. It has the same name but with a .beg.bak extension.
[Robert Engle] " Is it possible if you move the pictures after working on the project, i mean moving the location within your computer, and there in a different location could that cause an issue when Vegas is opened"
Absolutely! You cannot change the location of the pictures once you add them to the project. They are not IN the project! They are just referenced by the project to the place on the hard drive that they exist. If you change where they are, the project will not know where to find them. Perhaps this is your problem.

I find that it's best to make a new folder for every project and copy the media into that folder so that the location never changes.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas / Media Fire
on Dec 31, 2014 at 3:00:36 pm

I see a few people downloading things from a place called Media Fire to get some cool intro stuff. I want to do a cool intro for a video and this site seems ok. Any bad thoughts from you guys are or there better sites to go to? The one I saw has a planet and stars with the name coming at you thought it was neat. What do you guys think?
Thanks


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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas / Media Fire
on Dec 31, 2014 at 8:50:04 pm

I guess instead I should ask whats the best place to download intro templates? Does the program have any general? Just want a cool look. The one I was looking at wasn't there the guy said download there but he was mistaken. Any ideas from you guys?


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas / Media Fire
on Jan 1, 2015 at 4:30:28 pm

I would start a new thread about this so that more people see it. I have no recommendation myself. I use to use Digital Juice but they are subscription only now so I stopped buying from them.

~jr

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Robert Engle
Re: Sony Vegas / Media Fire
on Jan 1, 2015 at 7:17:12 pm

Thanks John


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