FORUMS: list search recent posts

Merging projects, changes color in preview window

COW Forums : VEGAS Pro

<< PREVIOUS   •   VIEW ALL   •   PRINT   •   NEXT >>
Rick Longworth
Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 3:44:12 am

I'm merging several projects into a master level project. When I do this, the color images (not B&W) in the preview window are grainy and very over-saturated. Why is this happening. Is there a corrective measure?
I am using Sony Vegas Pro 12;
project properties is HDV 1080-24p (1440x1080, 23.976 fps)

Thanks.


Return to posts index

Graham Bernard
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 7:21:28 am

Rick, are you MERGING two already rendered-out files OR are you Nesting two VEG files?

Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge


Return to posts index

Steve Rhoden
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 9:26:11 am

You simply may have a filter/effect on the timeline you are dropping
them on.

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


Return to posts index


John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 11:20:50 am

It sounds like you may be applying FX twice. If in one project you added FX to the track, but in another you added them to the event, and now you move the event with FX onto a track with FX you get double FX. Check that you didn't do this.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Graham Bernard
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 2:07:04 pm

Hey, guys, how about the MP4 stretch?

G

Video Content Creator and Potter
PC 7 64-bit 16gb * Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core 3.40GHz * 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti
Cameras: Canon XF300 + PowerShot SX50HS Bridge


Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 8:27:36 pm

John, I think your suggestion is correct. It makes sense. I tried to discover which elements are causing the problem so I could deal with it. However, the larger of my two projects is quite complex and includes many pre-rendered segments and some other fancy footwork. I was unable to determine where there is a duplication of FX. I tried separating the complex project into smaller and smaller segments to isolate the offending parts, but even the smallest components lead to the same strange appearance of the preview window. I may just have to live with it. The rendered product looks just fine, its just that the preview window is not good for an early review of fine details.
Thanks all for your suggestions. Any other thoughts?


Return to posts index


John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 9:18:37 pm

Why don't you use Nested Projects? Start a new project and drag the other project files into it. They will behave as single pieces of media.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 18, 2014 at 9:48:34 pm

That's just what I am trying to do. Nesting (didn't know the term). Sorry if I was not clear in describing my situation. I drag in the first project and the preview window looks fine. I drag in a second project, and I get wonky color in the preview window.
One thing I tried was to move the second project down onto a lower track so the two projects would not be effecting each other. No luck.
Can you suggest a way to narrow down the problem? When I delete parts of the second project hoping to get rid of the offending segments, I do not find it. The problem persists with even small bits of the project included.


Return to posts index

John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 19, 2014 at 4:50:06 am

[Rick Longworth] "I drag in the first project and the preview window looks fine. I drag in a second project, and I get wonky color in the preview window."
What if you just drop the 2nd project into a new project? Does it look bad then? It may have something to do with nesting the second project.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index


Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 19, 2014 at 5:09:46 am

Yes, I tried dropping the second (offending) project in an empty project. It still looks very sick. I tested 3 other projects and they all look fine. It looks like somethings wrong with project 2, but I don't know what. Perhaps if I try to recreate parts of project 2 from scratch until it breaks?


Return to posts index

John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 2:43:40 am

Yea, you need to figure out what's wrong with project 2 and why it can't be nested without looking bad. Of course, you could always just render it out and use the rendered video which should look fine.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 3:13:44 am

I'm pretty curious so I'll probably do a little more testing to find the problem with project 2. If I find out I'll drop another post on here. Otherwise, ya, I'll render it.
Thanks, John, for your suggestions. Great forum.


Return to posts index


John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 3:35:25 am

You're welcome. Glad I could help. Good luck!

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 3:56:13 am

Well, I found the problem. At least I was able to correct it.
Looking in project 2, I began to suspect there was some track fx even though I couldn't see any flags set. In a moment of inspiration, I decided to created a new empty video track and copy the whole offending track contents into it. Sure enough the super-saturation went away. I deleted the offending track (now empty), and I'm good to go.
Normally track fx is signaled by a brightened fx flag on the track header, right? There was none. Strange. Is there a way a track can be in an fx mode without a visible signal?


Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 4:10:19 am

Woops. No, I didn't fix it. Bad test.
Anyway, I'll take you "good luck" for now. Thanks.


Return to posts index



John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 12:11:13 pm

[Rick Longworth] "Anyway, I'll take you "good luck" for now."
Unfortunately that's all I can offer at the moment. Only you can figure out what went wrong in your project. Make sure there are no Media FX that might be messing things up. Media FX won't show any indicator because they are applied to the media itself and not a track or event. Also check the master video bus above the preview window and make sure you are not adding anything there that you did want.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 20, 2014 at 12:46:03 pm

Thanks for the tips. I'll keep checking.


Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 1:44:17 am

OK, now I have my work-around. I copied all of project 2, the contents that is, to a new empty project. If there was a media fx associated with the original project it was left behind.
So, I did ctr A to select all of project 2, edit/copy, open a new empty project, edit/paste the buffer into the new project. Now when I nest via drag and drop into a third project, I get good color in the preview window.
It would be nice if Vegas had a way of seeing what media fx is contained in your project.
Thanks again John and the others.
-- rick


Return to posts index


Mike Kujbida
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 2:16:11 am

[Rick Longworth] "It would be nice if Vegas had a way of seeing what media fx is contained in your project."

Timeline Tools (it's free and a great utility!!) will show you.
http://www.nfatoys.com/moasoftwarellc/


Return to posts index

Mark Barton
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 9:02:00 am

In the Project Media view (Alt 5 shortcut), there is a column for Media FX and if that is greater than 0 then there is a Media FX applied to that media.


Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 11:48:29 am

I did not know that info was available. Thanks for the tip.
I found all "0s" in that column, in project 2 or at the top level project, which suggests there are no hidden fx.
The cause of the funny color remains a mystery. At least I found the work-around.
Thanks for the tip Mark! I'll be making good use of alt 5 going forward.


Return to posts index

John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 12:41:44 pm

[Rick Longworth] "It would be nice if Vegas had a way of seeing what media fx is contained in your project."
Go to the Project Media tab and select the Details view and look at the Media FX column. It will give you a count of the Media FX on each asset. Anything greater than zero (0) means there is Media FX applied to the media.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Rick Longworth
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 1:05:07 pm

Thanks John. Looks like Mark Barton beat you to it. What a great forum is this?
"Ask and ye shall be given".
See response above. All "0's".


Return to posts index

John Rofrano
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 21, 2014 at 7:27:23 pm

Yea I saw that after I posted. I was reading the posts from my email and just replied before reading them all. But at least you got the answer. :-D

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



Return to posts index

Steve Rhoden
Re: Merging projects, changes color in preview window
on Nov 24, 2014 at 1:13:34 am

Glad you got it sorted out...

Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
http://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia


Return to posts index

<< PREVIOUS   •   VIEW ALL   •   PRINT   •   NEXT >>
© 2017 CreativeCOW.net All Rights Reserved
[TOP]