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Kevin McCarthy
new computer question
on May 21, 2014 at 11:45:30 pm

I have the opportunity to purchase a "refurb" Dell 3500 with a xeon quadcore 3.4 ghz processor, 12 gig of ram, and an invida T200 video card with 1 gig of ram. The price is $500 which I think is pretty good

My question is; do you think it will handle vegas pro 13? Your opinions please.

Thanks in advance

Kevin McCarthy


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Angelo Mike
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 12:31:50 am

I don't trust Dell after I've had at least two CPUs over heat in the 90s, not sure if I'd ever trust them again.


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Angelo Mike
Re: new computer question
on May 24, 2014 at 6:58:38 pm

I'll agree with John (and my earlier post). Do not buy from Dell. They probably make it hard to upgrade parts, forcing you to buy their proprietary upgrades. If you can't build your own computer (and it's not that hard-I recommend just looking up recommended specs online, or buying a book like Mike Meyers' Comptia A+ certification books and read on how the hardware works), hire someone you can trust who will build one for you, as I did for my current editing desktop.


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John Rofrano
Re: new computer question
on May 25, 2014 at 3:33:34 am

[Angelo Mike] "They probably make it hard to upgrade parts, forcing you to buy their proprietary upgrades."
This was exactly the experience I had. Their motherboard and power supply had proprietary connectors and when my PSU died, I could only buy another one from Dell at twice the going price and there was no way to buy a more powerful one, just the low powered one that was already in the computer.

Dell also has manufacturers make "low spec" versions of their hardware and pass it off as the "real" thing. For example, they sold me a GeForce graphics card that had the same model number as the one you can buy in stores but it had lower specs (less memory and slower clock speed). They also sold me a Audigy sound card with MIDI and digital I/O disabled! (no such card exist in the product line. It was specifically crippled for Dell and sold as the full featured card). I finally junked the computer instead of overpaying for another low powered PSU and never bought another Dell.

I cannot, in good conscience, recommend a Dell to anyone.

~jr

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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 12:40:26 am
Last Edited By Steve Rhoden on May 22, 2014 at 12:42:02 am

Are you kidding Kevin, of course, lol.
Others will read deep into that NVidia GPU card support, etc, etc...
But i stop worrying myself long ago over this whole GPU mess and
technicalities and just enjoy my edits.
You have a decent beast, go make some money.

Steve Rhoden
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Film Editor & Compositor.
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Kevin McCarthy
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 12:47:38 am

Thanks Steve.

It's a precision T3500 with lots of fans, so I'm not too concerned about heat.

Thanks for your input, let me know when you need another voice-over.

Cheers

Kevin



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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 1:23:43 am

Sure, Always glad to assist...

Steve Rhoden
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Dave Osbun
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 12:17:20 pm

I'd buy it. It's a great deal.

Dave


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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 22, 2014 at 12:47:24 pm

"I'd buy it. It's a great deal."
Indeed it is!

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John Rofrano
Re: new computer question
on May 23, 2014 at 9:45:30 pm
Last Edited By John Rofrano on May 23, 2014 at 9:46:06 pm

I'd never buy a Dell again but if I was foolish enough to buy one... Here is a Referb Dell Precision T3500 X5650 2.66GHz 6-Core, 12GB Memory, 250GB Hard Drive, Nvidia Quadro NVS295 Video Card for $474 USD at NewEgg.com. I'd rather have a 2.66Ghz 6-core than a 3.4Ghz 4-core and it has a Quadro graphics card and is cheaper too.

Here's the description:
The Dell Precision T3500 is packed full of power. This version comes with a X5650 (2.66GHz) Intel Xeon Six Core Processors, 12GB Memory and a 250GB Hard Drive. On the video side this Dell T3500 offers the Nvidia Quadro NVS295 with Dispaly Port to DVI adapter cable and keyboard/mouse. This machine comes ready to work strait out of the box loaded with Windows 7 PRO 64 BIT Operating System.
(Did I mention I would never buy a Dell again!)

~jr

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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 24, 2014 at 2:17:58 pm

I dont really pay much attention to PC/Laptop "Brands" anymore.
They are all an assembly from varied vendors.

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Dave Osbun
Re: new computer question
on May 24, 2014 at 6:18:28 pm

You are 100% correct, Steve! They also buy the components from the same low-ball manufacturers as well (cheap power supplies, for example).

It is ALWAYS best to build your own!

Dave


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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 24, 2014 at 10:39:44 pm

"low-ball manufacturers"
That cracks me up Dave, lol...... True, Exactly my point.

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John Rofrano
Re: new computer question
on May 25, 2014 at 3:24:37 am

[Dave Osbun] "You are 100% correct, Steve! They also buy the components from the same low-ball manufacturers as well (cheap power supplies, for example)."
I don't agree. There are plenty of Boutique builders who use exactly the same parts as you would if you built you own. Some of them like iBuyPower.com allow you to select your brand of case, motherboard, memory modules, etc. It is *exactly* the parts you want, built to order, just as if you had done it yourself.

I also wouldn't put an HP Workstation or BOXX workstation in the same class as a Dell. Dell uses cheap parts and charges a premium. HP and BOXX use premium parts and charge a premium (but at least you get what you pay for). The HP Z Series of workstations has excellent build quality. Apple is another manufacturer that uses premium parts, their build quality is second to none, (if you don't believe me, take apart a 2008 Mac Pro and see the attention to detail that goes into that computer) and they are cheaper than HP and BOXX on the high end.
[Dave Osbun] "It is ALWAYS best to build your own!"
There really is no need to build your own just to get the parts you want anymore. You build your own because you enjoy building computers and can save a few bucks. You can still get the same quality from boutique builders.

~jr

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Steve Rhoden
Re: new computer question
on May 27, 2014 at 11:09:06 am

if you don't believe me, take apart a 2008 Mac Pro and see the attention to detail that goes into that computer

Strangely, ive never taken apart a Mac before!

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John Rofrano
Re: new computer question
on May 27, 2014 at 12:28:10 pm

[Steve Rhoden] "Strangely, ive never taken apart a Mac before!"
I have! :-D

When I got my Mac Pro from eBay and turned it on, my dog started howling. I noticed there was a sent in the air too. I asks the seller if he had any pets... he replied, "two dogs and four cats, why?". I guess my dog through they were trapped inside this metal box! lol

I stripped the Mac Pro down to the motherboard removing all of the fans and cleaned and vacuumed every inch to get the pet dander out. As I was removing the screws, I noticed that each and every screw (even the ones holding the DVD drive in place) had a blue locking paste added. This keeps them from loosening. I wanted to put a second DVD drive in from one of my old PC's and when I opened the drive housing, much to my surprise, the screws that I needed were already in place waiting to be used. There wasn't a lose wire in the entire case. All of the cables were velcro'ed to the walls of the case out of the way so that there was no restricted airflow. All of the wires were also in a flat harness with couplings in strategic places so that major parts like the PSU can easily be removed. Most of the disassembly required no tools and the case design has three separate thermal areas. One on top for the PSU, one in the center for the GPU/PCI cards, and one at the bottom for CPU and memory. Each has their own large quiet fans to move air from the front of the case to the back. There is a riser card that the memory attaches to. No need to get your fingers into a cramped area to add memory. Just pull out the easily accessible riser card, add the memory to the card, and slip it back into the motherboard. Everything was well thought out and easily accessible. It was just a joy to work on. Needless to say, I was very impressed with the build quality.

~jr

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