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Ken Layer
Sony Vegas Render Settings Help
on May 12, 2014 at 7:51:10 pm
Last Edited By Ken Layer on May 13, 2014 at 12:55:44 am

Hi

I have been doing youtube for over a year now, I've used Windows Movie Maker to what I use today, Sony Vegas. However I still can't seem to get the quality I want from my videos.

I would like to know what you guys think of these render settings:
http://gyazo.com/14917b3fa147a4462f217dc728f7d248
http://gyazo.com/1d221a78218c4bf5abde86a50faf94a0

Now the quality is a lot better than the defualt 6mb WMV present (Which a lot of people recommend), but it still seems that the end result looks bad compared to a lot of other youtubers.

Thanks
-Ken


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Mike Kujbida
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings Help
on May 13, 2014 at 1:59:48 am

If you're using Pro 8 or newer, try Video4YouTube (it's free) from the folks who developed Vegasaur.
http://vegasaur.com/download


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 13, 2014 at 2:44:43 am

I still use Video4YouTube quite often.

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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 13, 2014 at 3:47:48 am

Thanks for replying, downloaded it, installed it but doesn't come up. I am using Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 12. Im not sure if it works for this version or not.


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Steve Rhoden
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 13, 2014 at 4:08:27 am

Sorry, It wont work with that!

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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 14, 2014 at 1:06:55 am

So are you saying that you don't like the quality you are getting from the Movie Studio YouTube upload settings when you press the Make Movie button?

I would not use Windows Media format. Try MainConcept AVC Internet settings instead.

~jr

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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 14, 2014 at 4:21:40 am
Last Edited By Ken Layer on May 14, 2014 at 4:34:43 am

Thanks for responding.

Would I get better quality uploading strait to youtube from Vegas?

And I have tried MainConcept AVC, I wasn't a huge fan because of the darker colors it added to the video. Is there a way to fix that?

I am usually recording minecraft, so when I use MainConcept AVC, the color change is very noticeable.

I am just asking this because many other youtubers that use 720p have amazing quality. My quality is good but I would just like to see if it could be better.


Thanks a lot!
-Ken


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 14, 2014 at 5:29:34 pm

[Ken Layer] "Would I get better quality uploading strait to youtube from Vegas?"
I really don't know. I don't use Movie Studio. You should try it and see.
[Ken Layer] "And I have tried MainConcept AVC, I wasn't a huge fan because of the darker colors it added to the video. Is there a way to fix that?"
Yes, place the Levels filter with the "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" preset on the Master Video Bus before you render.
[Ken Layer] "I am usually recording minecraft, so when I use MainConcept AVC, the color change is very noticeable."
Have you tried Sony AVC instead?
[Ken Layer] "I am just asking this because many other youtubers that use 720p have amazing quality. My quality is good but I would just like to see if it could be better."
Have you asked the other youtubers what they are doing? The encoders in Movie Studio are designed for "real world" video. You are encoding "computer animation" which has more solid colors. Maybe they are using a codec that handles animation better?

~jr

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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 15, 2014 at 12:15:54 am

[John Rofrano] "Yes, place the Levels filter with the "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" preset on the Master Video Bus before you render."

How would I do this?

Thanks
-Ken


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 16, 2014 at 1:28:55 am

[Ken Layer] "How would I do this?"
There is an FX button above the Preview window that is the Master Video Bus:


Press that and Add the Sony Levels FX and look in the preset list for one called "Computer RGB to Studio RGB" and select it. Then render your video.

~jr

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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 18, 2014 at 5:08:56 am

Thanks for all the help everyone!

It worked John, half the file size, same render time as my last present but, surprisingly less quality than my last present:

Main Concept AVC: http://gyazo.com/93354bcb2338d0db84ab6b73d16976cc
WMV (Quality VBR): http://gyazo.com/8aab7463f7368b21287d79cd0edfe561
*Sony Vegas Main Concept AVC was relatively the same as normal Main Concept*

I really appreciate all of you for attempting to help me, I just do not think there is much more I can do at this current time. As you mentioned before:
[John Rofrano] "The encoders in Movie Studio are designed for "real world" video." And I use it for gaming so you can see the issue.

So once again thanks for all the help and effort you guys gave me, this forum is really one of the most helpful ones I have seen in a long time.

Thanks
-Ken


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John Rofrano
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on May 18, 2014 at 10:36:30 am

You're welcome Ken. I would still pursue asking someone on YouTube what they use. Perhaps they use a different tool for their final render like Handbreak and maybe it has more parameters for rendering animation better. I don't know.

If YouTube will accept a QuickTime MOV file as input, you might try rendering with the QuickTime Animation codec and uploading that to YouTube. As the name implies, this codec was designed specifically for handling computer animation.

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on Jun 3, 2014 at 3:42:34 am

Sorry for such a late response John. Yes I have tried that and the quality is nice. I believe the major issue is with youtube not me. I will probably figure something out in the future and attempt more at making the quality of my videos even better. But for now I think quality VBR will hold up.

Also I have asked other youtubers as well about their render settings and such. Issue is many youtubers use say Dxtory and Sony vegas. And some others use Fraps and Adobe Premiere. So there is a wide variation of possibilities.

Thanks once again for your help. And sorry for the late response.


-Ken


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Stewart Bourke
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on Jun 2, 2014 at 1:10:36 pm

FOlks,

I just tried to download video4YouTube from http://vegasaur.com/download.

Chrome tells me is is malicious - has anybody else had this issue?

Thanks,

STBO


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Ken Layer
Re: Sony Vegas Render Settings
on Jun 3, 2014 at 3:34:50 am

Hello Stewart, I had the same issue but apparently, after I downloaded it and scaned it for viruses, it was clear. The way to fix chrome to download it is in the settings->privacy->then uncheck scan dowloads for malicious files(or somehing like that)

-Ken


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