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Scott Francis
SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 26, 2014 at 6:14:16 pm

Hey All,

Just wanted to check with you all and see how SVP13 is working with GPU cards. I am looking to update this summer and want to see how all the video cards are managing in the newest release.

Thanks in advance

Scott Francis
Mind's Eye Audio/Video Productions


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Norman Black
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 26, 2014 at 6:39:08 pm

From my video, the same as most the recent Vegas 12 Build 770.


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John Rofrano
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 26, 2014 at 6:54:41 pm

[Scott Francis] "I am looking to update this summer and want to see how all the video cards are managing in the newest release."
Nothing has changed. It's the same as Vegas Pro 12.0. :(

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Steve Rhoden
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 26, 2014 at 8:35:21 pm

Yep, the GPU Architecture is the same as Vegas Pro 12.

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Ralph Hajik
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 26, 2014 at 10:12:03 pm

Hi John Rofrano,

If you recall, last year we had a conversation at NAB 2013 about the Asus P9X79 PRO Motherboard that you were not so happy with. Well, I'm into another computer rebuild and do you recall what motherboard you would have gone with other than the Asus P9X79 PRO motherboard mentioned above or recommend any newer version motherboard?

Happy Travels
Ralph Hajik
http://www.RJTravelMedia.com


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John Rofrano
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 27, 2014 at 11:50:41 am

[Ralph Hajik] "Well, I'm into another computer rebuild and do you recall what motherboard you would have gone with other than the Asus P9X79 PRO motherboard mentioned above or recommend any newer version motherboard?"
Hi Ralph, I would have bought the Asus P9X79 WS which is the workstation version because it has on-board Firewire. I still have there (3) cameras that use Firewire so maybe my situation is different if you don't have firewire cameras. The other problem I had was the memory that VideoGuys recommended was not complete supported by the motherboard and I had hard time upgrading the BIOS and tweaking the memory timings when all that I wanted is something that just worked out-of-the-box. I believe that all of that is cleared up now since memory manufacturers have had over a year to build compatible modules.

So if I was going to build another computer I would use the Asus P9X79 WS instead of the Pro but if you don't have firewire cameras you can just buy the Pro. The fact is, I would never build my own computer again. I would just buy a Mac. In fact, I picked up a 2008 Mac Pro 2.8Ghz 8-Core, 16GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 2TB RAID 0, ATI Radeon HD 5870 for $740 on eBay which cost less than my $800 Quadro 4000 video card alone and performs faster than my current computer in the Sony "Red Car" project. I have Windows 7 Pro running under Bootcamp. The build construction on the old Mac Pro's is phenomenal. They are so easy to add/remove drives and memory, etc. I can now work with Final Cut Pro X editors and deliver ProRes 422 to post houses without any problems. As I said, I'll never build another Windows computer again... I'll just buy another Mac. YMMV ;-)

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com



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Ralph Hajik
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 27, 2014 at 3:52:52 pm

HI John,

I read your response to my question and find it very interesting by moving into a MAC system. Unless I misunderstood your answer, I didn't know you were able to use Sony Vegas Pro on a MAC system. I thought you can only use Sony Vegas Pro on an Intel or an AMD build.

Happy Travels
Ralph Hajik
http://www.RJTravelMedia.com


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John Rofrano
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 28, 2014 at 6:48:28 pm

[Ralph Hajik] "Unless I misunderstood your answer, I didn't know you were able to use Sony Vegas Pro on a MAC system. I thought you can only use Sony Vegas Pro on an Intel or an AMD build."
There are two ways to run Vegas Pro on a Mac. The Mac has an option called Bootcamp where you can carve out a partition on your hard drive and install Windows and reboot into it. At that point, it's just an Intel computer running Windows. This is where I did all of my benchmarking with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit and Vegas Pro 12.0.

The other way os to use virtualization software like VirtualBox, VMware Fusion, or Parallels. This software allows you to run Windows on top of Mac OS X so that it's just another application on your desktop. Like this:



I'll run Vegas Pro like this for quick edits but any time I want to use GPU acceleration (like for using BCC or Boris Red) I reboot with Bootcamp and run Windows natively to get the most power from the hardware. It's the best of booth worlds but the best thing is my Mac Pro is almost dead silent! I thought I built a pretty quiet PC and this was important to me because of all of my video tutorial work that takes place at the computer. Now after working on my Mac Pro and I turn on my Windows PC it sounds like a jet aircraft by comparison. It all comes down to the build quality of the Mac Pro. Apple has three separate temperature zones for PSU, GPU, and CPU, controlled by three sets of large, slow, quiet fans. The result is almost silent.

I wish I had bought a Mac Pro years ago. It definitely would have been a better investment than building my own.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Ralph Hajik
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 28, 2014 at 10:06:52 pm

HI John,

Thanks for the clarification and it sounds like your a rocket scientist on a mission well done. This gives me an extra avenue to take when thinking about another computer. Thanks for the heads up on a Mac.
Job well done.

Happy Travels
Ralph Hajik
http://www.RJTravelMedia.com


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Cedric Divang
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 27, 2014 at 9:06:17 pm
Last Edited By Cedric Divang on Apr 27, 2014 at 9:06:39 pm

I have an AMD HD7750 Series and rendering takes exactly the same time as SVP12.


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Scott Francis
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 27, 2014 at 10:06:15 pm

Thanks everyone. My MAIN question is in reference to preview and not rendering. Also, if the newer Kepler cards now have better playback.

Scott Francis
Mind's Eye Audio/Video Productions


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Dave Haynie
Re: SVP 13 and GPU cards, need your experiences
on Apr 28, 2014 at 2:37:30 am

About the only thing Sony can do directly is ensure that Vegas works reliably with stable GPU drivers. Given my experience with the AMD HD6970 and the more recent versions of Vegas 12, that seems to be a pretty solved problem. This, plus any critical plug-ins, is the basis for your editing/preview performance, and certainly part of the rendering performance, since everything you see during a preview has to feed the rendering engine during a render. Perhaps Sony could further improve GPU performance, but in my short bit of testing, they do not seem to have done anything here.

Far as nVidia Kepler performance, I do not believe that Sony can do anything. That is a nVidia problem, and it shows up in many OpenCL benchmarks, not just Vegas. There are various theories. One is that nVidia just doesn't have their GPGPU stuff tweaked for Kepler. Unlikely, as Kepler was the first architecture designed specifically for GPGPU computing. Another suggests nVidia is just slacking on OpenCL... maybe, I have not followed comparisons between Kepler and older chips on CUDA. And finally, it's suggested that consumer and pro drivers are holding back on GPGPU performance, in order to make the Tesla "compute" boards more attractive. They all use the same chips, the Tesla costs twice that of the high end desktop GPU, it does get better performance on some benchmarks, and nVidia has done just this between OpenGL coding for desktop vs pro drivers. So maybe. But so far, nothing points at Vegas being the problem.

And finally, rendering, or more specififically, GPU accelerated rendering, which reallyy has been mostly about AVC rendering. Sony doesn't seem to have done much here but add XAVC profiles, which isn't new CODEC work. The Sony AVC CODEC has very marginal GPU acceleration. Main Concept's is great, but according to their web site, still locked to just the 2011-vintage GPU they supported back when Roxio bought them. Sony really needs to find a better AVC supplier, or get their own act together. And add HEVC while they're at it. No motion on any of these that I can see.

-Dave


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