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Ron Whitaker
For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 17, 2014 at 6:11:29 pm

OK.

I know it's quite soon, but for those who've already upgraded to SVP 13, what are your thoughts about the new upgrade so far?


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Frank Stevn
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 17, 2014 at 7:23:20 pm

So far, not much new.


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John Rofrano
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 17, 2014 at 9:51:04 pm

Seems solid to me so far. I love the broadcast loudness meter. Worth the price of the upgrade alone if you do any broadcast work.

Download the 30-day trial and see for yourself because everyone's workflow is different.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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john lenihan
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 18, 2014 at 1:24:03 am

I downloaded it and it looks like nothing new at all.

Seems like Sony has maybe 1/3 of one software developer assigned to this product.

They added some third party affects as teasers to get me to buy those affects.

They added an app on a tablet which a third party developed to try and show a client which seems anemic compared to what it could have been. Allowing feedback along the timeline and helpful things.

They added a few bug fixes for the codecs for 4 k stuff (like actually being able to read the timecode)

When they delayed the release the way they did, I had my hopes up a little higher. I thought they were porting it to MAC OS. Or coding into the base some of the features we have all been asking for and that two companies are making a living (Vegasaur et al) because Sony Creative doesn't have anyone assigned to improving this software very much.

As a prior vp of product management, these are signs they are considering this a mature product and they are pulling back investment for some other more promising product.


John

John Lenihan

LeniCam Video Productions
http://www.lenicamvideoproductions.com


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Chris Young
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 19, 2014 at 3:07:29 am

As for v13 so far so good. I've outlined some of my feelings in other posts so won't repeat myself here.

Porting Vegas to Mac. If they did they would sell many more Vegas packages. The number of disillusioned FCP users I've spoken to who don't want to go Adobe because of CC and who have tried Avid's unique way of doing things would love to try Vegas on the Mac.

In fact I have an editor coming over next week for half a day on Vegas because he is desperate and is thinking of running Vegas on Mac via Bootcamp or Parallels Desktop.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney



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John Rofrano
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 20, 2014 at 12:30:14 am

[Chris Young] "Porting Vegas to Mac. If they did they would sell many more Vegas packages. The number of disillusioned FCP users I've spoken to who don't want to go Adobe because of CC and who have tried Avid's unique way of doing things would love to try Vegas on the Mac."
Well they've already developed Sound Forge for Mac and SpectraLayers is on the Mac so Vegas for Mac is not that far fetched an idea. I, for one, am hoping for it.
[Chris Young] "In fact I have an editor coming over next week for half a day on Vegas because he is desperate and is thinking of running Vegas on Mac via Bootcamp or Parallels Desktop."
Works great! That's what I do: ;-)



~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Chris Young
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 20, 2014 at 2:04:17 am

John ~

Very interesting. Do you mind telling me exactly the best way to set up Vegas on Mac?. Are you using Bootcamp or Parallels Desktop or what to achieve this end? Are there any "gotcha" things you have to watch out for when setting it up? Any pointers you can share would be great. Thx in advance.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney



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John Rofrano
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 20, 2014 at 11:15:15 am

[Chris Young] "Do you mind telling me exactly the best way to set up Vegas on Mac?."
Sure. I use Bootcamp and VMware Fusion 6.0. The reason for both is that Virtual Machines like VMware and Parallels don't have the GPU support that Vegas Pro requires (they have DirectX GPU support but Vegas Pro uses OpenCL). So if I don't need GPU support, I'll use VMware Fusion to bring Vegas Pro up in a window on my Mac desktop like the one you see in my previous post. When I know I'm going to need the GPU for plug-ins like Boris RED/Boris Continuum Complete (BCC) I will reboot into Bootcamp where I have all of the GPU capabilities of any other computer running Windows 7. VMware Fusion allows you to use your Bootcamp partition as a VM. I don't know if Parellels Destop has the same feature. I would check before buying. If you don't need GPU support then there is no need to use Bootcamp. Just use VMware or Parallels.

The only limitation with Bootcamp is that it doesn't support Apple RAID because it's a software RAID performed by the OS. If you have a hardware RAID you should be fine. The other limitation is that the drives on your other OS will be mounted read-only. So in OS X your NTFS Windows drive is read-only and on Windows 7 your Mac HFS+ drives will be read-only. If you need read-write access to these drives, get a copy of Paragon 2-in-1 Mac Bundle of NTFS for Mac and HFS+ for Windows. These will give you full write access to the other OS's drives. The Paragon software really makes everything seamless. If you don't need to write to your Mac drives while in Windows and visa versa you may not need it. Also, as state above, if you don't need GPU support then you don't need Bootcamp at all.

Feel free to ask more questions if that wasn't what you were looking for.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Chris Young
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 21, 2014 at 1:37:07 am

John

Thx heaps for the highly detailed explanation. Up until now I had no idea of what was required to achieve this. I am pretty sure this is exactly what my good man is going to need to do on his Mac to run Vegas. I shall pass on the info when he arrives. I'm sure there will be be some more questions if he decides to go ahead. In which case we may pepper you with some more questions if that's not too much of a request.

Thx again for rundown.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney



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John Rofrano
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 21, 2014 at 3:49:02 pm

You're welcome Chris. Feel free to reach out to me when you're ready to actually do it. My personal email is on the About page of my web site.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Scott Francis
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 24, 2014 at 2:54:26 am

I also use Bootcamp when running Vegas, for some of the same reason John mentions. I don't use VMware or Parallels but have thought about it. I use all PC's at my business and my job uses all Mac's so I have to share. REALLY wish SCS would make Vegas for Mac. I JUST downloaded a trial of 13 and loaded in a project that I have been having constant crashes with and also playback issues and 13 runs MUCH better with higher preview as well...

Just my 2 cents...

Scott Francis
Mind's Eye Audio/Video Productions


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Chris Young
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 24, 2014 at 3:09:29 am

Thx for the offer John. My potential Vegas editor is now starting to lean towards Prem Pro as it runs under Mac OS without the work around that Vegas equires. We will see how we go!

Thx again.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney



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John Rofrano
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on Apr 24, 2014 at 12:20:45 pm

[Chris Young] "My potential Vegas editor is now starting to lean towards Prem Pro as it runs under Mac OS without the work around that Vegas equires. We will see how we go!"
Why is he not using Final Cut Pro X. That is an outstanding NLE on the Mac. IMHO it is leaps and bounds better than Premiere Pro. FCP X is a LOT like Vegas Pro. I learned it very quickly and do a lot of editing with it now. The magnetic timeline is pure genius. It has very tight integration with Motion (more so than Premiere and After Effects). I'm really curious as to why he wouldn't use it?

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Sam rosenthal
Re: For those who've upgraded...
on May 22, 2014 at 9:48:00 am

Hi @John Rofrano - maybe you can help me with this question. I posted it as a separate thread, but no replies there. Thanks for your time.....


Hi all. I have been using Vegas for audio recording for 12+ years. In 2013 I got the latest iMac and installed Vegas PRO12 for video, running in the Bootcamp environment. This month, I began using PRO12 for audio as well.

Vegas runs fine; however, my Waves L1 Maximizer no longer appeares as a plug-in option. Figuring it was compatibility issues between the 12-year-old-Waves + new 64bit Vegas, I bought the L2 Maximizer from the Waves site. I had the same problem (not appearing as a plug-in option). After much dicking around, I was informed by Waves, "Please note, Bootcamped Mac is not oficially supported with Waves products, as it can produce various issues."

Since then, I bought iZotope Alloy2, which does show up as a plug-in option and works fine. But it's not as smooth, elegant, and effective as L2.

I've tried installing two free reverbs, yet both do not appear as a plug-in option.

Now. finally, my question: Do you have a recommendation on a free (or low priced) reverb that will work with on a Bootcamped Mac? And what about a very simple - but effective - compressor?

Thanks

Sam


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