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Angelo Mike
Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 4, 2014 at 5:13:09 pm
Last Edited By Angelo Mike on Apr 11, 2014 at 2:32:11 am

With the purchase of my tablet I posted about, I'll be able to show highlights from my videography, editing, and filmmaking. I'll be attending a job fair for video/editing soon. Here's the event's information.

http://www.wifv.org/events/?#id=92&cid=783&wid=401&type=Cal

I've applied to several of these companies before with no luck.

I've never had a steady job in video and have always worked freelance. Using Sony Vegas probably puts me at a disadvantage to editors who are proficient with Premiere, FCP, or Avid, though I'd pitch myself as being able and willing to learn those.

Most of my experience is with fashion videography (https://www.youtube.com/user/glynnjacksonyt).

Do I bring a resume with links on a flash stick? I don't have a demo reel, but I would have some highlights of my work on the tablet and can bring references.

So I have a pretty unfocused career with the exception of funny videos and fashion videos. And a lot of that experience may be irrelevant for these jobs, or even something they respond negatively to if they think they don't want someone who might try to change their image.


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John Rofrano
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 5, 2014 at 2:07:54 pm

[Angelo Mike] "I don't have a demo reel, but I would have some highlights of my work on the tablet and can bring references."
I would put together a demo reel and have that on your tablet ready to show. Have printed resumes available to hand out just so that you can leave something with them. Your problem will be lack of knowledge of industry standard tools. A resume with FCP and Avid on it is going to get you a lot further than one with Vegas Pro. Sorry to say but those are the facts.
[Angelo Mike] "I've applied to several of these companies before with no luck."
The difference this time is that they are not looking at you on paper. They are going to get to meet you. You need to turn this into an advantage. I would sell yourself as, "An independent using independent tools like Vegas Pro, now wanting to go mainstream and willing to learn". Attitude is very important in selling yourself. People want to work with positive "can-do" people.

Do your homework on these companies. Find out what tools they use. Find out what sort of productions they are doing. Ask them questions about projects they are working on. Interview them as much as they are interviewing you. They will appreciate your interest. Showing that you know something about their business goes a long way to making connections with these people. I can't stress enough how important doing your homework on these companies is.

I'm guessing that they will be more interested in seeing what you can do that anything else. My son just graduated from culinary school. He went to a local restaurant with his resume. The head chef didn't even want to look at it. He asked him to make two of his best dishes. When he was done, they made him an offer on the spot (the kid can cook!). My point is... What you show them in your demo reel should have a much greater impact than what tools you know how to use. Show them your creativity. Show them your passion. Show them you are an editor worthy of a job at their company.

Good luck!

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Angelo Mike
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 5, 2014 at 3:15:07 pm

I definitely think showing up in person and showing that I'm not just sending out 100 applications will help, too. Virtually every client I've gotten has been by just showing up, anyways, when had I put in an application I would have been most certainly overlooked.

My problem with trying to make a demo reel is how different my videos have been from each other. I don't want to cut a bunch of different types of videos together, which won't give a clear idea of what I do and won't be tailored to employers. I was thinking about just having different styles of projects I've worked on ready to show depending on what each company does.


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Stephen Mann
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 6, 2014 at 5:10:32 am

Chances are that the people at the recruiting tables are not going to be making the hiring decision, but if your demo knocks their socks off they will probably put a few gold stars on your resume.

In my experience, the hiring managers have blinders on. If the director says FCP, then they are absolutely blind to any other experience. They will hire a kid right out of High School with one FCP project under their belt but never even give a Vegas editor with 20-years experience and some feature film experience a second look.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com


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John Rofrano
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 6, 2014 at 2:03:38 pm

[Stephen Mann] "They will hire a kid right out of High School with one FCP project under their belt but never even give a Vegas editor with 20-years experience and some feature film experience a second look."
I've been learning FCP X and it's a lot like Vegas Pro. This is probably why existing FCP 7 editors don't like it. They are steeped in "bin & 3-point edit" workflow of the old days and FCP X is all about metadata and getting down to editing right on the timeline. It would be easy for a Vegas Pro editor to learn FCP X and put it on their resume and be at least as proficient as a college kid.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com



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Angelo Mike
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 6, 2014 at 4:12:53 pm

It's not as easy for me to afford an Apple computer and FCP X, but at least I can bring this up in an interview.


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Colin Morris
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 6, 2014 at 9:56:10 pm

Hi Angelo,
I saw some of your fashion stuff and it was really quite good. As previously mentioned-the demo reel and personal contacts are the key. I think a few different demo reels would really work for you (i.e. a fashion reel, music video reel etc) With a strong reel you can develop more relationships with agencies and clients in a specific industry. If you become known as a 'go to', boutique, production company for fashion I don't think they will really care about what platform you edit with. I would also line up a few other people (camera,lighting, sound, editing) who are on the same workflow so you can share bigger jobs and tighter deadlines. I do this a lot with live music and it has worked pretty well so far.

Colin Mendez Morris
ArsMusica
http://www.arsmusica.ca


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Angelo Mike
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 6, 2014 at 10:49:14 pm

Thanks for the advice and kind words, Colin. It'll be a challenge, but I think I can cut a few reels together.

At the same time, none of these companies that will be at the job fair have done any fashion videos that I've seen. They mostly focus on public relations, corporate, government, educational, and branding type videos, with a few exceptions. Though some do broadcast television and filmmaking.


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Colin Morris
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 7, 2014 at 12:32:17 am

Hi Angelo,
The job fair would probably be interesting-but if you already have great material that covers a genre (like fashion) maybe it's not the ideal fit for your skills and connections. I think the fashion angle may be good for you because they are very photo aware and usually have some kind of budget. I cut my teeth on shooting mainly jazz and classical musicians live. Many musicians still think that their spouse/aunt/uncle with a consumer cam can shoot a pro live music video. Gradually, I got in contact with more clients who had a better understanding of the process, and who valued their image. I now try to balance between the bigger budgets and the more artistic/experimental stuff. Here is a link to an interview with George Bellias. He puts into words some of the stuff he has done as a 1 man editor for some big rock clients. NB-If he used SVP he could do his audio and video on the same platform!
http://apps.avid.com/GeorgeBellias/

Colin Mendez Morris
ArsMusica
http://www.arsmusica.ca


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Angelo Mike
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 7, 2014 at 9:21:27 pm

[Colin Morris] "Hi Angelo,
The job fair would probably be interesting-but if you already have great material that covers a genre (like fashion) maybe it's not the ideal fit for your skills and connections. I think the fashion angle may be good for you because they are very photo aware and usually have some kind of budget"


Sorry, this is unclear to me. What's not an ideal fit for my skills? The employers at the job fair? Who's the "they" that are photo aware?

I also have a lot of multicamera public events (comedy shows, concerts), and other videos that I can create reels for.


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Colin Morris
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 8, 2014 at 7:15:04 am

Hi Angelo- I mean your fashion stuff looks excellent and you may want to market yourself that way. Fashion designers are very image and photo aware because that really sells their product and they are willing to pay for excellent work. The guys around my area who do it well get good budgets, and work consistently with the same agencies and designers over and over. They do shoot other projects but they do quite well just shooting fashion.

Colin Mendez Morris
ArsMusica
http://www.arsmusica.ca


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Angelo Mike
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41:03 am

Oh, thanks. I don't know one way or the other if it will help me get a job by saying that because I have experience doing fashion videography that I could try to get a given video company fashion industry clients, but it's something I'll at least keep in mind.


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Jason Warfe
Re: Video/editing job application advice
on Apr 11, 2014 at 3:58:13 pm

Totally agree Stephen. I do all my editing with Vegas Pro at my job and do FX work with After Effects. I think it's a great combo. So jobs DO exist where Vegas Pro is used, but FCP is definitely more mainstream.

Everything on this site below is edited with Vegas Pro. I find it to be a fantastic editor. I render out h.264 files in After Effects so the video can play on cell phones and other mobile devices.

http://www.okhouse.tv/


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