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Rob Lindsay
Echo removal
on Dec 10, 2017 at 6:59:18 pm

Hello

A room with a boom. "Acceptable" amount of echo that I'd like to reduce. i can't find any recent posts with advice on removing voice echo so i hope someone can respond here. i'm using V13.

i've attached a piece of the audio here. Thanks for any help!

Rob
V13 W/10

Vegas 13.453
Dell Windows 10
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Francois Pénzes
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:20:21 pm

Hi Rob

I don't see a link to your file.

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Mike Kujbida
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:47:52 pm

No guarantee but try the method descriged bybuser farrs in this thread. His second reply is the one to look at.
Good luck.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/echo-in-voice-over--80704/


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Rob Lindsay
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 10, 2017 at 11:37:01 pm

I tried the "reverse phase" but I'm not sure I did reverse it. Would someone make that a bit clearer, please?

I tried a few different Vegas audio FX but none had any effect.

I have uploaded a sample of the audio.

Thanks for your help,

Vegas 13.453
Dell Windows 10
Intel6700 quad CPU
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Eric Clinch
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 2:04:56 am

Where's the uploaded file?


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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 5:56:01 am

[Eric Clinch] "Where's the uploaded file?"
Eric, click on Rob’s name.

I’m gonna make me a cup of coffee and going to have a go too. Luv this Forum!

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Marco Baer
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 9:34:06 am

I think you need an external plug-in. Grazie already posted a good example.

To reduce reverb I use a plug-in called "DeVerberate" from Acon Digital. Listen to the file attached.


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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 10:48:46 am

Nice result Marco. I’ve got the ACON one too and I’ll give it a go. Also to reinforce your plugin comment, the farss (Bob) approach can’t do much for the folding-over of the other impediments to reducing the boomingness.

* Grazie

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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 4:59:44 pm

[Graham Bernard] "I’ve got the ACON one too"
And no I don't! - I've got the freebies.

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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 6:17:08 am
Last Edited By Graham Bernard on Dec 11, 2017 at 6:17:27 am

[Rob Lindsay] "A room with a boom."
Well, you have other issues too, beyond the, what I would regard as marginally acceptable "boom", and those are sibilance and clipping.

So, I'm falling into the two areas of:

A] ACTIVE: Doing something to rectify, which in itself is not a given.

or . . .

B] PASSIVE: Not doing anything at all, and leaving well alone, maybe the sibilance and clipping.

But I'm now going to have a go using iZotopeRX6 Advanced to just see IF there is a result in the offing.

* Grazie

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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 6:55:14 am

I've done my usual precursive approach through iZoRX6Adv to garner, gather any knowledge of the issues and in IMHO, this will never be a Studio recorded sample, but I'm guessing you know this too. OK, like any of this work the more I experiment, the more I'm revealing and quite frankly, the more damage I'm doing.

Here's the list even before the any "boom" or DeReverb removal/reduction. I've got:
  • Sibilance
  • Clipping
  • Background noise issues: people speaking, slamming doors
  • Hum of various freqs

All of which conspire against getting that boom, IMHO the lesser of the "Evils" out of the way. In which case I'm starting to favour my approach B.

* Grazie

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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 8:12:50 am

Really enjoying the puzzle . .

O...K... Here's what I've felt I've needed to use:
My approach was to reduce any extraneous noisy items prior to dealing with the actual boom. I needed to hear the speech as cleanly as possible. This meant Declicking and Declipping and DeCrackling. Removing any HUM and generally reduce any background noise. I think I got that? I now drove towards the dialogue and experimented with dialogue enhancement. Then and only then did I attempt the DeReverb - the Booming. Got some way but it sounded flat and not organic. And sooo . . I added BACK a tiny bit of reverb.

Honestly, it sounds over-cooked, but I could go over it and restart and smooth it down somewhat. I've attached my mediocre attempts here. What do you think? 11955_graziesampled11954audioclip1.mp3.zip

* Grazie

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Rob Lindsay
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 6:17:52 pm

Graham, Marco, and Eric

Thanks for the valiant attempts at fixing the track. A stupid mistake that I hope I won't repeat. The audio is acceptable, but only just, in the original form. I will keep it that way.

Sadder and wiser,

Rob

Vegas 13.453
Dell Windows 10
Intel6700 quad CPU
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Graham Bernard
Re: Echo removal
on Dec 11, 2017 at 6:27:30 pm

[Rob Lindsay] "I will keep it that way."
Oh, good. We’ve all done something similar.

Here’s my Mantra: Great Video will look rubbish with bad Audio. But, bad Video can look stunning with great Audio.

* Grazie

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