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Sergei Sokolov
What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 25, 2017 at 10:46:33 pm

I have a 20 minute video of someone doing a flip.
The flip occurs at minute 4 and 12.
I effectively want to delete everything except 4:00 to 4:20 and 12:00 to 12:20
What commands should I look up to do this?

Also, will I be able to save the short video quickly without "rendering"?
Or will it need to reprocess every frame? (slow)


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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12:02 pm

User's Manual is useless garbage.

Can you do me a huge favor?
Can you open a sample media file, and write down EXACTLY what keystrokes you use to DELETE :10 to :20 ?

I literally mean everything you type.
I am having trouble using the keyboard to start/stop.
SPACE just starts at the beginning, for example. (Not PAUSE)

I want to
1) PLAY
2) SKIP to :10
3) MARK
4) SKIP to :20
5) MARK
6) DELETE

All with keyboard.


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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 25, 2017 at 11:45:14 pm

How do I delete a selection?

I pressed I and O to mark the start and end.
I see the little YELLOW flags. on the timeline.
When I press DEL, the entire video is gone.

Is the SELECTION the entire VIDEO TRACK?
Or is it the section marked by I & O ?
The ENTIRE VIDEO is still highlighted by the green rectangle.


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Graham Bernard
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 8:43:16 am

Scrub and Create Regions of what you WANT then Render those as Batch Renders. Choose your Choice Weapon of Render - DONE!

I do it all the time for client to create Rushes for them to view.

* Grazie

Video Content Creator and Potter
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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:02:01 pm

I have no idea what you're saying. Please tell me what keys to press.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 1:54:44 pm
Last Edited By John Rofrano on Feb 26, 2017 at 2:26:19 pm

[Sergei Sokolov] "How do I delete a selection?"
With Ctrl+X
[Sergei Sokolov] "I pressed I and O to mark the start and end.
I see the little YELLOW flags. on the timeline.
When I press DEL, the entire video is gone."
After you mark the In and Out points, you need to use Shift+Q to highlight that selection. Then sue Ctrl+X to delete it or Ctrl+T to keep it and delete what's outside the selection.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:02:47 pm

The basic version of MS13 does not allow me to press SHIFT+Q
The feature does not exist in the menu, either.


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Marco Baer
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 27, 2017 at 12:12:49 pm

At least two ways which work in the basic version of VMS were explained to you -> here.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 1:51:31 pm
Last Edited By John Rofrano on Feb 26, 2017 at 2:59:11 pm

[Sergei Sokolov] "User's Manual is useless garbage."
The on-line help is quite good. I would start with the menu item: Help | Keyboard Shortcuts ;-)
[Sergei Sokolov] "I want to
1) PLAY
2) SKIP to :10
3) MARK
4) SKIP to :20
5) MARK
6) DELETE"
Here is the key sequence you need:

1) PLAY
No need to Play if you are going to Skip to the selection you want.

2) SKIP to :10
Ctrl+G :10 to Goto 00:00:00;10 (that's 10 frames not 10 seconds)

3) MARK
I to mark the In point

4) SKIP to :20
Ctrl+G :20 to Goto 00:00:00;20

5) MARK
O to mark the Out point

6) DELETE
Shift+Q to highlight the loop selection
Ctrl+X to delete the selection
F to Post-Ripple Edit (this will close the gap)

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:04:39 pm

I use Auto-ripple, so I never have to move anything after deleting a section.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 1:50:06 pm
Last Edited By John Rofrano on Feb 26, 2017 at 2:21:38 pm

[Sergei Sokolov] "I effectively want to delete everything except 4:00 to 4:20 and 12:00 to 12:20. What commands should I look up to do this?"
You could do one of the following:
  • Trim both ends of the video using your mouse and move the resulting event back to the beginning of the timeline -- OR --

  • Mark the In and Out points and use Shift+Q to select the loop region and then use Ctrl+T to trim. Finally you need to move the event to the beginning of the timeline -- OR --

  • Split the event at the in and out point and delete the new events on either side and then move the event to the beginning of the timeline
You only need to do one of those.
[Sergei Sokolov] "Also, will I be able to save the short video quickly without "rendering"? Or will it need to reprocess every frame? (slow)"
For MP4 it will need to re-render each and every frame.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:05:52 pm

Since I do not have the "select Loop" feature, I have to use split.
How can I select the recently split section without using the mouse? (So I can DEL it)


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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:10:38 pm

Do I need to buy Platinum in order to have the SHIFT+Q feature?
What a bunch of crooks who made this thing.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 26, 2017 at 3:21:34 pm

[Sergei Sokolov] "Do I need to buy Platinum in order to have the SHIFT+Q feature?"
It works in Movie Studio Platinum 12 so I guess the answer might be Yes if you don't have it in your version.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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László Kovács
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 27, 2017 at 2:40:32 pm

Hi,

I never bother with I/O points. If it's really that simple as it the OP suggests, I would just use the keys 'S' and 'delete'.
-Add the video to the timeline.
-get the playhead (cursor or whatever it is called) at the first position you need a cut.
-press 'S' (split).
-move the cursor to the next position where you need a cut, then press 'S' again. (Sidenote: 'S' splits the currently selected event at the cursor, if nothing is selected, everything on the timeline is split at that point)
Now you have split your original material into 3 pieces.
Select a piece (by clicking it) you don't need and press'delete' key.
Repeat as necessary.
It can be that simple I think...

If you ever will have more than one audio and video track, I'd recommend against autoripple.

Best regards

László Kovács


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Marco Baer
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 27, 2017 at 5:23:15 pm

Sergei's concern is not to use the mouse and it must work within the basic version of Movie Studio, which is limited in the editing feature set (e. g. there is no Shift+Q command).

Though in the thread I linked above he already got two solutions. Don't know why these were disregarded.


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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 27, 2017 at 10:48:57 pm

Because I don't understand what you're trying to say.

WHAT DO I PRESS, EXACTLY?

Can you open a sample media file, and write down EXACTLY what keystrokes you use to DELETE :10 to :20 ?

I literally mean everything you type. With NO MOUSE.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 28, 2017 at 4:15:31 am

[Sergei Sokolov] "Can you open a sample media file, and write down EXACTLY what keystrokes you use to DELETE :10 to :20 ?"
Ctrl+G :10
S
Ctrl+G :20
Alt+[

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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Sergei Sokolov
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Feb 28, 2017 at 11:01:49 pm

What you wrote does NOT work.

When you press Alt+[
it just moves the cursor back to the start of the current section.

It does NOT delete anything.


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John Rofrano
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Mar 1, 2017 at 4:53:02 am

[Sergei Sokolov] "When you press Alt+[ it just moves the cursor back to the start of the current section."
Not for me. Ctrl+[ moves to the beginning and Atl+[ trims the beginning of the clip to the cursor.

Like I said, take a look at Help | Keyboard Shortcuts where it clearly states:

Trim the start of the selected event to the cursor position Alt=[

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasstsoftware.com



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David Eon
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Jul 15, 2017 at 10:41:45 am

If I'm reading this correctly, you may need to try holding down Alt while pressing [
I think that will clear up a lot of the confusion you are having. It's difficult because even though many of the people on this forum use keystrokes constantly, you are the only editor that I know of using Zero Mouse! <- Which I think is pretty awesome! Keep exploring this and let me know if you have any other questions. For now, try some of these if you aren't already using them.

JKL = playback (J is reverse, K is pause, L is forward) Press L again to play faster up to 4 times (same for J in reverse)
Spacebar and Enter both also Play/Pause but the spacebar returns to where it started and enter will stop wherever you press it a second time.

S = split at cursor
[ = select beginning of clip
] = select end of clip

Hold down Alt while pressing left and right arrows will go 1 frame at a time

Adjust zoom on timeline using up and down arrows

Hold down Alt and press [ to edit the beginning of your clip to the cursor
Hold down Alt and press ] to edit the end of your clip to the cursor

Press [ to select the beginning of the clip, then use arrows to adjust the edit
Press ] to select the end of the clip, then use arrows to adjust the edit

Press ] twice to go to the start of the next clip (you can move through all the clips on your timeline this way)
and [ twice to go back to a previous clip

So to use these keystrokes to delete a clip you could use:
L to play
K to pause
S to split at start
L to play
K to pause
S to split at end then
[ twice to go back to your new "Split clip" that you created and press Delete.

I hope this helps. Thanks!
DavidEon


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seno meria
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Mar 3, 2017 at 8:58:27 pm

If you want to trim parts without re-encoding, use:

1) AvideMux
2) Cut Assistant
3) Cute free video editor <---- My favorite


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seno meria
Re: What is the simplest way to trim ?
on Mar 3, 2017 at 8:59:47 pm

3) Cute Video Cutter (i wanted to mean that)


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